Dexter Season Finale: Are You Effing Kidding Me?

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    I normally don't do this kind of thing.....

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    I normally don't blog about Showtime original series or any cable television program.

    But I've been a faithful fan and follower of Dexter ever since season one because the narrative is intriguing narrative. I mean, who can really hate a serial killer who takes out the trash, right? Because of "Harry's Code" all of Dexter's victims have been murderers or child molesters who exhibited every sign of being repeat offenders. This means for every dirtbag Dexter took out, the world was arguably a better place.

    Until now.....
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    This last season had an interesting twist. Dexter's sister Debra finds out what he is and what he does and becomes a collaborator, or at least covers for him though she can hardly stomach the idea of a lieutenant of Miami Metro being an accomplice to her murdering blood spatter analyst brother. But she loves her brother, so ultimately she sides with him when push comes to shove. But something else is emerging that threatens to put Dexter away as the Bay Harbor Butcher. Capt. Laguerta, never having accepted that the late Sgt. Doakes, who she was in love with, was the Bay Harbor Butcher, sets out to find who the real culprit was and her pursuit leads her hot on the trail of Dexter.

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    Dexter is in a tough spot. Capt. Laguerta threatens to expose not only him, but Debra as well and lock them both up for life. But that alone doesn't cause Laguerta to meet Harry's Code, a well engrained protocol to ensure only the guilty are executed and only those who have killed and are likely to kill again. But it isn't just he and his sister's futures in jeopardy, Dexter also has a son, Harrison, from his late wife who is now a tottler. Much was at stake, so much that Dexter thought of doing the unthinkable...kill Laguerta even though she was guilty of no crime.

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    Dexter doesn't inform his sister of his plans. He sets Laguerta up by forcing a man in his kill room to call Laguerta and beg her to come to help her. The man is none other than the very man who ordered Dexter's mother to be murdered when he was only two, the baptism in blood that eventually birthed a serial killer in Dexter. Strapped to the kill room table in a seaport shipping container, Dexter brings final justice to his mom by stabbing the man who killed her. His plan? To kill Laguerta with the man's gun and use Laguerta's gun to shoot the man through the stab wound, concealing it, to make it look like they killed each other.

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    Everything is going according to plan. Laguerta shows up, Dexter sneaks behind her and immobilizes her with his tranquilizer syringe. He uses Laguerta's gun to shoot the man that he already killed. But before he can complete the second half of the plan, Debra shows up. Distraught, Debra has Dexter at gunpoint, telling him he can't kill Laguerta because she's done nothing wrong. During this exchange, Laguerta wakes up and urges Debra to shoot her brother. After coming to a painful decision, Debra shoots Laguerta instead.

    I'm not looking forward to next season. Why? Because the narrative has changed. Debra, more than just being an accomplice to Dexter, has her own initiation in blood, murdering her boss, the captain of the police force. And unlike any of Dexter's murders, this one met no code of moral justification. Never mind that this was exactly what Dexter was planning on doing himself. It seemed to be a self serving ending for the season, paving the way for Dexter to continue as an original series. I thought for a moment that this would be the end of the series, that Debra, when forced into a decision, could not go so far as to shed innocent blood; that as heart wrenching as it would be, she would have no choice but to shoot her brother before either of them advanced to the next level, unjustifiable murder. The decision seemed to serve Michael C. Hall's agenda to perpetuate his popular show another year than the higher virtue of preserving the unsullied narrative that made the show great.

    Yes, I'm disappointed after all these years. I don't even know if I'll even gander at the next season. I can't go along with the narrative where murder is the result of survival and a preponderance of competing interests, rather than the original concept of covertly putting an end to evil. The hero has now himself become a source of evil, corrupting his sister in the process. This is a new narrative that I just can't go along with.
     
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    Sgt. Dokes & LaGuerta are heroes

    dexter & debra are evil sick and twisted (*)(*)(*)(*)s who deserve to be raped in jail for the rest of their miserable lives....

    debra is by far the worst. not only has she covered up and helped dexter murder but now she killed an innocent hero. and she did it cause shes in love with her brother. what a sick pedofile duo brother & sister.

    ive been against dexter for a while, especially after he got dokes killed.

    Next season they deserve to rot in jail for their evil crimes
     
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    I can't read this because I am a season behind. We JUST got lseason 6 from netflix... disk 2 was on hold for months (really pissed me off). I have now seen it all the way to the cliffhanger. Wife still has about 4 episodes left.

    I have a big frown at people being upset where it is going from there.
     
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    And don't forget Doakes isn't the first innocent victim of Dexter. District Attorney Miguel Prado's brother who was a sherriff deputy, who was trying to catch the same guy Dexter was, encountered Dexter in the home of the the suspect. Dexter killed him by stabbing him. Before Dexter kills Miguel Prado at the end of the season, he boasts to him about having killed his innocent brother Oscar. I could almost give this a pass since Dexter hadn't intended on killing Oscar, but Dexter in this same season kills an old friend, a woman who knew him since childhood and was in pain and terminally ill. Dexter kills her by finding the perfect lime merange pie and poisoning it. As a Catholic, I find it horribly distasteful these scripted senarios where the person who ends a sick person's life prematurely is somehow the hero. Catholics believe that life is precious, even in suffering....especially in suffering, and that euthenasia is a mortal crime.

    But this latest twist is just absolutely sick. And you know what I hate most about it, RTL? Debra is going to take Laguerta's place as police captain. That's right. She murders her boss and she'll get the promotion to replace her out of a sick, twisted devotion to her brother that, remember now, is also a quasi sexual attraction. As I said, I don't know if I'll watch the next season. Michael C. Hall has gotten way too far away from the original concept that made the show a hit. I can say this, though, that this latest turn of events is extremely realistic. Murder, no matter how it's justified, begets more murder and even "justifiable" murder eventually finds completely innocent victims like Sgt. Doakes, Deputy Prado, and now Capt. Laguerta. (and i liked her) In real life, it could be no other way.
     
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    idk i never really liked dexter to begin with. even if he killed murderers. hes stick and twisted and only kills cause he likes it. not to be good. hes no different than the people he kills. Dexter killed tons of innocents... i think in S5 he killed a dude in a bathroom just for some insults. plus he killed that assassin for the Russian dude too. Am i mistaken by saying that that guy Issac wasnt a killer either? the russain dude that was after dexter.

    either way idc. dexter is a sick and twisted (*)(*)(*)(*) who just kills because he likes it. obviously hes going to kill innocents eventually. theyres only so many murderers who are on the loose for him to kill. and he kills because he likes it and cant stop. so if there were no killers he would then just kill innocents.

    Debra is by FAR the worst.... actually not only the worst character on this show, but the worst character ive ever seen in any tv show or movie. shes a traitor, an ultra hypocrite, a pedofile, murderer, and a piece of (*)(*)(*)(*). she has no values whatsoever. i felt like screaming when she ran over to LaGuerta crying after she just SHOT HER TO DEATH. i was hoping that LaGuerta would pull out a knife and stab debra. my god i hate her so much. Ive got family that are LEO and now i am in school learning about being a LEO (even though i am dropping out to join the military next year). its insulting as (*)(*)(*)(*) to anyone who wears a badge....

    That being said, I wouldnt worry so much about deb being captain.... not for long anyways. in real life dex & deb are screwed, although in the show they might ignore a lot of things. but anyways they have the tape of deb at the gas station.... they have an official warrent for deb & dex. people will put together that everyone involved in dex's moms murder ends up dead... same with everyone that tries to get dexter.....in real life the police would be on dex and debra like white on rice.

    im glad they did this though.... dexter isnt a hero, he never was.... so its time for people to stop pretending he was. anyone who is shocked and saying this isnt the real dexter is completely blind. same with deb. shes sick and twisted and is an ultra hypocrite to say the least. i hope deb gets killed by dexter. what an ironic ending. it would be no different that what we have seen though. so far debra is just covering up for dexter and being his personal (*)(*)(*)(*)(*) she would do anything for him. so it would be funny to see dexter killing her in the end.

    i hope they both die. evil and twisted (*)(*)(*)(*)ers
     
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    also i am going to watch the show until the end. hoping for deb and dexter's justice when they are put to death or imprisoned
     
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    I'll be back in this thread to read more as soon as I watch the last episode of the season!!! >.< Haven't seen it yet!
     
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    Yeah, I feel like I got sucked into this series only to find out it isn't what it seemed to be at first. It just makes me sick when a murderer is the hero. I would have been very happy if Deb shot Dexter, or arrested him, realizing that he's no progressing to murdering completely innocent victims because they threaten to expose him and finally understanding that he's an evil that needs to be stopped. Yes it would have been an end to the Dexter series, but it would have been the right thing. Watching Dexter is like watching a movie on Constantine, an emperor who tries to do good things, but the inner hungers inside of him cause him to do more harm than any good he might have done. That's Dexter. I don't so much blame Debra up to the point she murdered her boss. For her, it was an academic exercise to overlook murders that took people out that slipped through the cracks of the justice system. I can half understand that. But when she murdered Laguerta, that's when my opinion of both Dexter and Debra turned to (*)(*)(*)(*).

    BTW, I don't think you're going to get your wish if you're waiting for Debra and Dexter to get just remuneration for their crimes. Michael C. Hall has been running this show, and it's become evident that the narrative will always be shaped to serve the interests of Dexter and the perpetuation of the series.
     
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    I was a bit blown away by the finale too. I think it would have made more sense if Deb had just arrested him instead of shooting LaGuerta or shooting anyone for that matter. =/

    They say Season 8 is the last one for this series. Guess we'll see!
     
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    not reallly. it makes more sense that deb shot laguerta.

    1. shes IN LOVE with dexter (which explains her extreme hate for hanna)
    2. she has already compromised her values in order to protect dexter by letting him go for his murders
    3. not only does she let him go, but she helps cover up for him multiple times

    it wouldnt make sense for deb to do anything less than kill laguerta
     
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    I just got the impression that she was close to her breaking point where she couldn't do it anymore and would finally come clean about everything. I mean she's already on anti-anxiety medication and it's not like she's a real killer, certainly not the same way Dexter is one.

    I seriously got the impression that she would just arrest Dexter instead of shooting anyone despite LaGuerta egging her on to shoot him. Also I don't get the feeling that she is still in love with Dexter either. After she found out he was a serial killer she has been really cold to him and they haven't really shown her as still being in love with him in my opinion. I guess I am just not picking up on the same things some others here are. lol

    I figured next season would be all about Dexter's trial where he tells everyone why he does what he does, it would be a media frenzy, maybe he escapes at some point, etc. But it looks like they aren't going in that direction. Like saint said it looks like they are just going to continue directing everything in Dexter's favor.

    My feelings on the show so far, I find myself rooting for Dexter at times, killing off all the baddies and sickos but at the same time I want to see him get caught and see all the drama that follows that logical progression rather than him getting away with it forever.
     
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    First, I used to be on dexters side. I was much younger and still developing mentally at the time, while now I'm a man and have my concrete beliefs. I thought it was cool how dexter got all the bad guys and was a "good" serial killer. however over the past year or so I have kinda turned on that belief. I think I've started to see dexter for who he truly is. A sick serial killer. He kills because he likes it, not because hes good. if he got all the killers, eventually he would start killing innocents. because he has a need to kill. Dexter has also killed many people who did not deserve death, and has gotten heros killed like laguerta and dokes. Now, looking back I cant really see how I ever liked him in the 1st place.....

    Debra is a killer... and defiantly shes just as bad as dexter. Yes she is still in love with dexter, she said that like 2-3 episodes before. not to mention all shes done for him.... and even in the closing shots shes clutching dex's arm like a child clutches a mother's arm (or like boyfriend and girlfriend).... thats not your usual brother-sister relationship lol. I hate deb a lot because I have a lot of police in my family and in my friends' families. Its a disgrace to see someone who is so corrupt, not only to cover up evidence on someone but to also kill an innocent hero. hanna said it right. deb is the biggest hypocrite ive ever seen

    dex & deb are screwed for next season.... I cant wait for them to be thrown behind bars or killed lol. I used to be a fan of dexter but ive changes and so has he. I still like the show a lot. its very interesting to watch. i was routing for dokes & laguerta.... sucks though everyone i rout for usually dies on every TV show....
     
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    dex ends up like victor or he runs off to argentina with Hanna and live happily ever after doing what they do best...
     
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    What's also very disturbing about how this show has been playing out...Dexter has a son that he rarely sees. Conveniently there is a friendly baby sitter who's doing all the raising while Dexter goes out and has fun. There's nothing good in this little boy's future with such a sick father and aunt. But in the show, he's so peripheral to Dexter's life that one must wonder why he was even written into the script. I'm a father of three and my children are very central to my life. Neither I nor my wife can imagine letting somebody else do all the raising. Speaking of which, it's one of the reasons my own wife can't stand Dexter and doesn't understand why I watch it. She'll be watching it with me and she keeps asking, "Who's taking care of Harrison? When do they ever spend time together?" If there's any weakness in the narrative it's the weaving in of a young son who's more of an accessory to the show than anything else. And then of course he has stepkids too who we finally saw this season in one episode, though we didn't see them in the previous couple of years. Aster and Cody are now 15 and 12 respectively who at one time were very very close to Dexter when he married their mother (before getting her killed). Yet another underdeveloped part of the story; a loose end.

    But what disturbs me the most isn't that Dexter neglects the children in his life. I'm more disturbed that children were written into this show to begin with.
     
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    I am defiantly in agreement with you and your wife. Kids are like the reason for all of our existence. nothing is greater than becoming a parent and raising your own kids IMO. even though I dont have kids, I plan to have a few no question.

    LOL his baby sitter is such a joke. seriously what 25 year old would spend ALL DAY AND NIGHT babysitting a kid whos not family. shes such a corny character too and really annoying. she says the most annoying 1 liners, i'll get back to this later... this show has a LOT of ultra weak women characters like deb & hanna & the babbysitter (forgot her name) and they kill off the strong women like laguerta.

    the other two kids aster and cody LOL....they make me laugh so hard. they are such dweebs theyre just really lame uninteresting kids. no wonder dexter doesnt give a (*)(*)(*)(*) about them (joking).

    I think now they only keep harrison as a reason to somehow justify dexter's actions now to not get caught. and make it somehow better that he would do anything and kill anyone not to get thrown in jail

    For me i think its hard to quit a show. I have to REALLLY hate it. like game of thrones, that show is SICKENING. but anyways its hard for me to quit a show like dexter. i was close TBH. seasons 5 & 6 were utter crap. 7 picked up however. its a very interesting show. i want to see dexter get whats coming for him same with deb. so i wont be quitting this show forsure

    the thing that REALLY pisses me off about this show is all the corny 1 liners they always say. like all the vulgar jokes made by the old captain mathews, and all the stuff deb says. all the annoying and corny jokes they say all the time really gets on my nerves.

    i would be pissed as hell though if they left the story open for dexter... like he doesnt get thrown in jail hes still on the lose. that would be so painful i would be sooooooo pissed if justice is not served
     
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    Um, Dexter didn't kill Doakes...

    In fact, he tried to save him before the cabin blew up...
     
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    I can't believe y'all are taking this show so seriously...
     
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    dexter is 100% responsable for doakes' death
     
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    Not really...

    He was going to frame him...

    Lila killed him...
     
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    frame an innocent man. for crimes he hasnt committed. which would get him dead or in jail for life. essentially the same thing as killing him
     
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    Dexter still tried to prevent his death...

    Either way, methinks you take this show too seriously...
     
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    Dexter locked Sgt. Doakes up rendering him powerless to defend himself from being killed by psycho Lila. It's clear you're not a lawyer because any lawyer would tell you that somebody who illegally imprisons somebody and that somebody dies is subject to the "felony murder rule" and is automatically charged with 1st degree murder. Morally and legally Dexter is responsible for killing Doakes because he never had a right to imprison him...not even to prevent his own apprehension.
     
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    Dexter locked Sgt. Doakes up rendering him powerless to defend himself from being killed by psycho Lila. It's clear you're not a lawyer because any lawyer would tell you that anyone who illegally imprisons somebody and that somebody dies is subject to the "felony murder rule" and is automatically charged with 1st degree murder. Morally and legally Dexter is responsible for killing Doakes because he never had a right to imprison him...not even to prevent his own apprehension.
     
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    Not even close. I take The Walking Dead WAY more seriously! xD
     
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    walking dead used to be my favorite until they killed off shane :( now the show is meh.... im losing interest fast. my new favorite is american horror story that show is AMAZING
     

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