Did Rabbi Jesus/Yeshua learn about healing in India before teaching in Judaea?

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    tidbit New Member Past Donor

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    You seem to like the NDE stories where the near death person speaks to Jesus. I had an NDE (I prefer to call them near life experiences) but in my experience, I was not aware of anyone else being present, certainly no one that I could talk to. I didn't need to talk to anyone though. I was in pure peace, quiet, light and comfort; no fear, no want. I didn't feel like I was in the company of Jesus, but rather, in the company of everything. The stories that the NDE's have to tell are interesting, but after being in the company of pure peace, I find them a little 'coincidental'--I died and talked to Jesus. I'm not sure I believe them. If you ever have an NDE, I hope you experience the kind I had.
     
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    Palazzi is a joke in the Muslim world.. He's been many religions.

    Look to the gnostic gospels about Jesus learning Eastern healing.
     
  3. DennisTate

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    The people who look with objectivity and honesty at a number of religions........ seem to be some of the nicest people that I have encountered in this lifetime!

    They tend to be more fun to correspond with........... I think that if we knew him one on one... this Palazzi guy might be an extremely interesting friend.
     
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    Lambing time in the Middle East is in January...
     
  5. DennisTate

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    You are correct.... I do have a special appreciation for NDE accounts where somebody meets with Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus in a higher dimension of space - time.

    I love how these accounts tend to humble us Christians....... and give us a reason to have more respect for somebody who was raised in a different culture or religion.

    http://www.near-death.com/religion/christianity/emanuel-tuwagirairmana.html

     
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    Palazzi is a self aggrandizing creep.
     
  7. DennisTate

    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I really wouldn't entirely blame some people to perhaps think pretty much the same things about me!

    On occasion....... I make some statements that indicate some pretty serious chutzpah!

    I am not merely joking with the title to this thread........ I feel that I am somewhat psychic..... and that I have been guided to the understanding of something COLOSSAL ..... especially over the last 26 years..... of my 56 years?!?!


    http://www.politicalforum.com/opini...eory-modern-world-problems-even-possible.html


    Is a Unified Theory of Modern World Problems even possible?



    I began to use this phrase about five years ago.
     
  8. DennisTate

    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Good point.... but as the rainy season begins........ (their winter).... some shepherds are with their sheep for a while.... previous to taking them into barns or some other shelters for that time of year..... I read that this was especially true a couple of millennia ago..... The writer indicated September - October.
     
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    I doubt it considering I find it very hard to believe he walked or took a donkey to India and back lol.

    But it's a cool concept.
     
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    Have you ever been to Palestine?

    - - - Updated - - -

    Somewhere in the Gnostic gospels there is reference to missionaries from the Far East being in Palestine.
     
  11. DennisTate

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    No..... I have never been to the Middle East or even Europe for that matter!
     
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    According to the Aquarian Gospel of Jesus the Christ written by Levi Dowling he had been given a camel by one of his somewhat wealthy students.

    By the time he was about forty years of age, Levi Dowling claims that he was so adept at the out of the body experience that he was able to visit the Akashic Records and concentrated on several lives. One of them was that of Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus!

    In our time period a lot of research was done on the ability of Mr. Ingo Swann to control the out of the body state as far as visiting specific latitude and longitude on this earth...… and then draw whatever was there...… The coordinates were given to him by a researcher..... who did NOT know anything about the landform at the coordinates.
     
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    Oh dear. Oh dear. Oh dear. Learn about Judaism and the Jews. You'll get your answer there. Healing miracles are Christian teaching.
    The Jews considered themselves Jahweh's people. People should learn from them. If the people had learned that Jesus had been associating with Buddhist or other religions, and they would have known, he would have been rejected as a heretic. Look what happened to Paul when he 'introduced' the 'Christian Jesus' to the Jews of Damascus, and later.

    Oh. I forgot. We have a myth that Jesus actually visited Britain. He was quite a traveller it seems.
     
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    Interesting!

    His follower Joseph / Yosef of Arimathea is certainly rumored to have went to Britain.

    One part of my theory is that the level of mysticism in the teachings of Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus may well have been profoundly offensive to the members of the Sanhedrin who had been appointed by King Herod.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/relig...-teach-same-things-rabbi-nachman-breslov.html

    Did Rabbi Jesus/Yehoshua teach the same things as Rabbi Nachman of Breslov?



    For many years I have suspected that near death experience accounts and such phenomena as past life regression under hypnosis had the potential to greatly decrease discord between many religious groups. In December of 2012 I read a book that presents a powerful case that Rabbi Jesus may actually have taught his followers essentially all the same things that Rabbi Nachman of Breslov believed and taught!

    Here is what he writes regarding what he saw Rabbi Jesus/Yehoshua state in one of his lectures to his disciples:

    Bruce F. MacDonald Ph. D. page 117,118, "The Thomas Book, Near Death and a Quest for Another Gospel by the Twin Brother of Jesus".......


    All of this began with a near death experience in 1966:

    http://www.thomastwin.com/3 A Autobio.html


    ...................

    Oh.... pages 137 to 200 of that book by near death experiencer Dr. Bruce MacDonald explains WHY Joseph of Arimathea went to Britain....... and I am pretty sure it will blow your mind if you ever have the free time!!!!!!!!!

    ........... I will give you a hint though........

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_view_of_Jesus'_death

     
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    There's very little mysticism in the reachings of Jesus. Most of it is down to earth. I've already posted on one thread that I read the NT with leanings to Jewish teachings, for this is what Jesus the teacher used. Christianity has added its own interpretation of the OT to make Jesus their Messiah.

    Out of Body experiences are mainly the mind reacting to thoughts that have been in our minds, sometimes unconsciously.
     
  16. DennisTate

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    True....... there is little mysticism in the books written about the teachings of Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus that became popular by the fifth century when the Catholic Church chose a number of books for canonization and others for the book burning celebrations.

    But...… I did receive a brilliant explanation as to why the early Christian church was forced to reject the books that contained the more mystical teachings of Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/relig...hy-reincarnation-edited-out-christianity.html

    Why reincarnation was edited out of Christianity?



    On Saturday I began a Facebook group entitled Barbro Karlen and Anne Frank after one of the most famous cases of a child remembering a past life.

    Yesterday I got the most logical explanation I have ever read as to why reincarnation may have been edited out of the Christian scriptures:






    http://www.thomastwin.com/
     
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    As reincarnation does not appear in Judaism until much later than Josephus - it hardly likely he referred to it in its generally accepted sense. It does not appear in the Tanakh. Resurrection does. Neither does it, or ever has it, appeared in the Bible.

    The concern in the Early church was the teaching of Origenism, which taught the pre existence of the soul.
    This is probably what the Church discussed at the Council of Constantinople in the 350's CE. Early copies of scriptures before this council, and there are several, and early documents, show no reincarnation teachings for any Council to delete. The rest is down to hearsay.
     
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    I thought that it was indicated in an intriguing statement made in the Book of Zechariah:


    Zechariah 4:9


    Also.....


    Malachi 4:5


    And speaking of Elijah.....

    Both Christians as well as Jews are facing an interesting question at this time that are in some ways reminiscent of a question once posed by the Prophet Elijah.

    Is the being of light of near death experience fame the G-d of Abraham and/ or the Messiah in his non-human form appearing to people who have a brush with death or...… is this a great fallen angel impersonating G-d or the Messiah?


    1Kings 18:21



    http://www.near-death.com/science/research/pre-existence.html

    Pre-Existence and the Near-Death Experience
     
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    Zerubbabel started the Temple and finished it after a 16 year period when it stopped. He wasn't dead in that time.

    Malachi. That is not reincarnation. The idea of Elijah is that the body is 'resurrected' with the soul. Remember Samuel who appeared after being dead, and was recognised by his body and clothing.

    Why do you believe all these writers of near death experiences?
     
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    The near death experience accounts that I have read are some of the wisest philosophical writings that I have ever encountered in my lifetime.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/gay-lesbian-rights/380595-g-ds-agenda-gay-community.html

    G-d's Agenda for the Gay Community?!



    Assuming the accuracy of the following two paragraphs...… what specifically would G-d/ HaShem/ YHWH/ The G-d of Abraham be planning to do through the Gay Community?


    http://www.near-death.com/andreason.html#a11


    What about sexually diverse people?

    Obviously..... one of the things that our Creator wishes to do through the Gay Community..... is to create a whole new world in which there....."would never be one single wisecrack or hurtful remark made ever again"... is expanded and expanded and expanded to all groups and communities on earth?!
     
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    I'm agnostic. I don't believe 'god' has anything to do with the gay community. What about the people who feel they are in the wrong body?
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I suppose I could well be guilty of wishful thinking..... I do hope that the universalism taught by some near death experiencers is accurate.

    http://www.near-death.com/experiences/notable/christian-andreason.html#a04h

    h. Who goes to heaven?
    But.... Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus did make some statements that made me wonder if another person somewhat like John the Baptist must come along at this time in history. When he is raised up I am hoping I would not be an opponent of his like I might have been if he had came on the scene back in 1988 when I thought I had everything pretty much all figured out?!?!


    https://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/mat/17/1/s_946001
    Matthew 17:10 13


     
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    Helen Wambach Ph. D. conducted a fascinating study beginning around 1965.

    She regressed 1088 volunteers about 4000 years while they were in a hypnotic trance.

    Over sixty percent of her volunteers were women...… but exactly fifty percent of past lives viewed or perceived.... were of men?!

    Her volunteers saw themselves incarnating all over the place.... rich.... poor... black... white... oriental.....

    http://www.carolmoore.net/articles/helenwambach.html


     
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    Judaism has great teachings on the idea of reincarnation.


    http://www.aish.com/jl/l/a/48943926.html
     
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    Judaism originally had no teaching on reincarnation. This only came much later. It is not in the Tanakh, Jewish scriptures.
     

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