Did Rabbi Jesus/Yeshua learn about healing in India before teaching in Judaea?

Genesis 28:12

Genesis 17:4 "As for me, behold, my covenant is with thee, and thou shalt be a father of many nations."

One possible way to make Abraham a father of many nations is to reincarnate him over and over and over again into many racial and ethnic groups.



Genesis 49:1

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"And Jacob called unto his sons, and said, Gather yourselves together, that I may tell you that which shall befall you in the last days. "

Notice the word.....YOU... in this last verse!

 

I just got back an intriguing reply to this.......

 

If Jesus learned about healing in India, I'm Doctor Quinn Medicine Woman..
If he went to India the most he could learn there was how to make chapatis, or how to swing through trees like Hanuman their monkey god..

 

Genesis 1978

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That verse from Genesis 17:4 is about the crazy old coot Abraham selling his soul for fame and fortune.

 

There is zero evidence that Jesus was an Essene.

 

Jesus was a Pharisee; he believed in everything that the Pharisees believed in.

 

He certainly was at odds with the Pharisees.

 

Martin Luther was a Catholic for most of his life. And then he became a heretic and started a new branch.

Jesus was a Pharisee. He believed in everything that the Pharisees believed in and then he became a heretic and a psychopath and started to think that the world revolved around him. He believed in angels, demons, resurrections, spirits, and ghosts.

Acts 23:8 (CEB) = "This is because Sadducees say that there’s no resurrection, angel, or spirit, but Pharisees affirm them all."

Martin Luther supposedly continued to believe in the things that the Catholics believed in but he thought that he had a divine revelation of some sort that told him that their rituals and organization was all wrong. He convince a lot of people that he wasn't nuts and that God had given him the real skinny. Of course if his herd had been real Catholics they would have burned him at the stake within the hour.

 

A lot of scholars seem to think that John the Baptist was an Essene......
which indicates that they may have also had some influence on Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus during his childhood and teenage years.

http://www.fsmitha.com/h1/ch19.htm

Essenes, Herods and John the Baptist

 

Matthew chapter 4 resembles an out of the body experience,
or near death experience in several ways.

Prolonged fasting can be used to induce both an out of body experience or
even a near death experience.


https://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/mat/4/1/s_933001



Mat 4:2

And when he had fasted forty days and forty nights, he was afterward an hungred.

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Mat 4:5
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Then the devil taketh him up into the holy city, and setteth him on a pinnacle of the temple,

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Mat 4:8
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Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them;

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Both verses 5 and 8 resemble an out of the body experience.

People who have out of the body experiences or a
near death experience do tend to believe in ghosts,
demons, angels, aliens, reincarnation and lots of other unusual
subjects.

 

Why are so many years missing from the life of Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus????

 

Depends which gospel you believe. One says he went to Egypt the other says differently.

 

There was no reason for Jesus to be taken to Egypt except Matthews desire to fulfil a prophecy which had nothing to do with Jesus. The Massacre of the Innocents did not occur. Had this happened Herod would have been sent to Rome for trial, even though his mental state had deteriorated badly. The story of Herod and the wise men relies on Herod being in Jerusalem at the time. He had palaces in Jericho and in Caesarea Maritima - a magnificent port and city on the Mediterranean coast which became Roman capital of the area in 6AD. Jesus was a celebrated - by the public - Jewish preacher who suffered death at the hands of a Religious Heretical leadership.

 

Yes... they were a "Religious Heretical Leadership"........ some influential members of the SahHedrin or priesthood of the time of the martyrdom of John the Baptist and Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus had been appointed by King Herod...... who did not choose extremely gifted people who could be compared with Rabbi Nachman of Breslov in any way.

If all of the members of the Sanhedrin of the time of John the Baptist and Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus had risen up to the level of Sanhedrin Rabbi in a better more usual method...... John and Yeshua might not have been martyred.

King Herod chose some people for very high positions who placed far too much importance on position and power......

Jhn 11:48

"If we let him thus alone, all men will believe on him: and the Romans shall come and take away both our place and nation."

 

I don't remember reading any gospel that stated....."Jesus never went to Egypt."

So if one gospel doesn't mention Egypt specifically.... that would not mean that he would not have went there.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_Egypt#Ptolemaic_and_Roman

 

Jesus didn't go to Egypt or India. Peddle it elsewhere.

 

How would you know that?

 

Jews have a long history in both Egypt as well as India......
they also have a reputation for hospitality for other Jews.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_India#Bnei_Menashe

 

Herod and succeeding Governors chose their own High Priest. The Sanhedrin was not chosen by Herod and was usually of higher status people than Jesus - the Carpenters son. Particularly when the Sanhedrin was controlled by the Sadducees, who were the elite of Jewish society.

As regards Jesus in Egypt. This is ridiculous as I said before. The miraculous prophecy-fulfilling birth of Jesus is nothing but a story. Matthew sends Jesus to Egypt for 2 years - until Herod died. Luke sends Jesus back to Nazareth after 40 days, and he stays there.

There are so many problems comparing the two stories the best we can say is that Jesus was born to Joseph and Mary. Probably in Nazareth or nearby Bethlehem in Zebulun - a few miles from Nazareth, and a Jewish teacher came into being.

Why are so many years missing from the life of Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus????

Because Jesus wasn't ready. No-one was going to listen to a youth or young man. He also needed to learn. At the age of thirty He was, in Jewish belief, at the prime of life.
IMO Jesus was already 'going about his father's business' behind the scenes. He didn't just appear from nothing and find 12 men prepared to trust a stranger.

I don't believe Moses existed, but if you read the story Moses was brought up in a palace. If god was going to choose him to lead a people through the desert he needed experience. He got it in the years he supposedly served Jethro, looking after his flocks in the desert.
David - as a young man - was anointed to be king. But it was years of being pursued by Saul and leading a band of men that he learned how to be King and leader.
Paul was converted but was really a Christian novice. He had to go to Syria and spend many years learning his trade.

 

I personally met and sat with Robert Arnett, author of "India Unveiled" one day at a Hindu temple near me. We talked for about half an hour regarding his journey through India while writing his book, and he told me of meeting many different Swamis who ran/oversaw their many different temples who told him of long historical tradition handed down about "Issa" visiting those temples and learning and teaching. One showed him an ancient document that chronicled the visit and the activities of "Issa". He said it was well known that "Issa" was Jesus.

So I thought about the bible story of the three astrologers traveling to Bethlehem in search of the newborn king, and their gifts. I have no doubt whatsoever that Mary received them for her son, and kept then safely protected for her son as they were his gifts and commemorated the birth. And I thought about the very high probability that one day when Jesus was old enough to receive the information, that he was told again and again of the journey of the Wise Men to him and the gifts they brought. No doubt Jesus was deeply impressed with the wisdom and science of a people which was capable of revealing his birth to them and with such certainty and conviction that they journeyed all those many miles to him.

And when he was old enough, Jesus would journey to that land to repay the honor and to meet the people who possessed such wisdom. In fact, I cannot imagine there would be any way he would not make such a journey.

 

This sure sounds logical to me.......
I will try to remember if any of the books that I ran into so far on that topic specifically mention the wise men ....

 

That part was my own thoughts, remember. I never read it anywhere. I could just hear Jesus saying "mommy, tell me the story about the wise men again!"

 

I never understood this idea that somehow the religion (Mumbo Jumbo) that comes from India is somehow superior to the religion (Mumbo Jumbo) developed elsewhere, ergo for Jesus to be valid he must have learned something in India. That sort of thinking is pathetic IMHO. Jesus preached that the first will be last and the last will be first. The holly men of India tell us the first will be Brahmins and the last will be untouchables.

 

Your religiocentrism is offensive. There is no one "correct" religion. Hinduism is a beautiful, rich, and largely untainted religion that is at least as valid as Christianity. Try reading Thich Nhat Hanh's "Living Buddha, Living Christ" - https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/73184.Living_Buddha_Living_Christ.

That religion which claims that it, alone, is "true" is a false religion.

BTW, the caste system in India is not recognized nor respected in Hindu temples.