Do African Americans Exercise Free Thought?

Of course.

Correct indeed. After all, if we looked at the actual "audience" the Right (Republicans) reached out to in 2012, it's not even close to 'difficult' to see that African Americans weren't who they were trying to reach. Heck, you'd almost get the impression that they were trying to chase us AWAY.

And most of us realize that the current 'iteration' of the Republican Party, is generally 'hostile' toward people of color. I swear to God, I WISH that weren't something that is so 'obvious'.

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Indeed and Amen!!

 

Who made that broad and racist claim, before you did?

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Have you noticed the DIFFERENCE between what all those people are saying?

You see, that 'does' matter.

 

What you said above is so refreshingly truthful, I chuckled when I read it. You are absolutely correct!

Yes. (Chuckle #2.)

Can you say, "Tea Party"? (Tea Party = "groupthink", in my view.)

 

More ignorant right-wing racial polarization.

 

It might even be partially logical, if such disparagement actually led to satiating that 'anger'. But all it does is further undermine this society. Sadly, some White Americans who try to hurt minorities, are too blind to realize they are really hurting 'themselves'; they're far to shortsighted or blind to see THAT far at all.

Correct.

 

When you are looking at even an 80-20 split, one can argue that is a legitimate assessment by that diverse group for their best interests. I have said many times on this thread that one would expect huge majorities for Democrats amongst African Americans. So in regards to your point about Latinos or Asian Americans, no I would in no way shape or form put those numbers anywhere near the category of a 90-10 split. In fact, an 80-20 versus a 90-10 split produces DOUBLE the amount of dissenting voters, so do not pretend that the difference between the two is miniscule.

In regards to your comment about only 20% would be subject to indictment, I think that you are missing the mark entirely. I am not indicting individuals even remotely. If anything, I am indicting a mindset in a culture that stigmatizes dissent, to the point that one is labeled a traitor by virtue of that very dissent.

No...its really NOT silly. If I were an African American I would be insulted that the assumption would be that the entirety of my political being could be determined solely by the color of my skin. African Americans have as much diversity of thought amongst its ranks than any other race, yet its voting patterns don't reflect that diversity.

 

I think you are so BENT upon the use of the term "groupthink"... that you are missing the most important points.

Generally, what you're communicating here is BS.

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LOL!! (Refreshing breath of TRUTH.)

But also as serious as a heart-attack.

 

You have it absolutely correct.

 

To me, today the Right (because of their 'extremism') more resembles a religious CULT, than a political-persuasion.

That is a decent snapshot of what is going on.

Mr. Romney did NOT actually regard ALL of the American people. I didn't want him anywhere near the Presidency; he came WAY TOO CLOSE, in my view.

 

Well, to be short, no, a 90% vote is not proof of groupthink. It could be, of course. If I asked everyone if they want to go swim through lava I might get 98% No. Is that groupthink or is that everyone choosing the option they consider the most sensible.

I think you want it to be about groupthink...which it probably is, honestly. But...what of it...

 

They never really 'had' the country; they were simply allowed to live in it... like the REST of us.

 

I personally couldn't care less what term you want to use. It is the concept that is relevant. Call it Jabberwocky if you'd prefer.

There have been many on this thread with SUBSTANTIVE dissenting responses, you however, are NOT among them.

 

Amen!

I learned the above when I was a 'boy'; and that was around 1970. I wonder why people cannot see it 'now'? (Are the lies on Faux News THAT effective?)

 

Wrong. Here is some info.

 

Differences are due to the aggregate of political opinions within the black community, usually caused by upbringing and other sociological+culture based factors.

Anything I've seen other than this seems wishful revisionism or polarized crap

 

Direct, clear and truthful!!

Amen!!

 

You can't sell a pile of sh__ to anyone who isn't using it for fertilizer.

Your STAND is there on the sidewalk because the laws let you set it up (your OPINION), but it doesn't take a genius or a scholar to know better than to buy from you.

After all, I have to ask:

What are you trying to FEED people anyway?!!

And THAT is the very type of question that the RIGHT had better start asking themselves, if they expect to be anything but 'marginalized' within this society.

Sorry man, I'm not going to go academically formal, to call you not the BS you started and continued this thread with. I could put you on "ignore", but this is so much more FUN.

 

Of course that doesn't really say how they voted does it? In either case...who cares....that is specifically why I said "I don't know" when asked the percentage.... because I didn't know.

 

Stop trying to sell 'racism' man; it's sh__.

 

I don't believe any politician really cares that much about Black people, or anyone who isn't a significant gain to them.

 

And if you think a more conservative Black American does not recognize the racism in the Republican party and recognize that the policies proscribed by Republicans would deny him his right to vote and deny his children equal opportunity for education and jobs based solely on their race then you need far more than rephrasing.

When Republicans were passing legislation specifically designed to deny the vote to people of color do you think they had any special provisions to ensure "conservative" people of color were protected or was their racism pointed at all people of color no matter their political beliefs.

I might take your claim of being insulted slightly more seriously were it not for the company you choose to keep.

You want to change the voting patterns for people of color? Change Republican party policies. Get rid of people like Rand Paul. Stop embracing some of the people right here on this forum because a political party with a power base that includes ideas like:

"white pride"
"white power"
“Our Blacks Are Better Than Their’s”
“Future Welfare Recipient”
and
"We have a high percentage of blacks in prison, and that’s tragic, but are they in prison just because they are black or because they don’t want to study as hard in school? I’ve taught school, and I saw a lot of people of color who didn’t study hard because they said the government would take care of them."

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To be a conservative requires two traits.

A complete disregard for truth; and
Political Alzheimer's syndrome.

 

I don't know.

Do we have free will or are we destined to fate.

The age old question which has no answer.

 

A GIANT AMEN... to all of the above!!

Thank you!!!

 

First off, Im not trying to change how anyone votes. I am pointing out a voting pattern that doesn't logically reflect the diversity of thought that exists within the African American community. I have probably stated 5 times already that of course African Americans are going to vote by huge margins for Democrats. Of course Homosexuals are going to vote in large margins for Democrats, but even amongst that group, that is by far the most openly disdained and attacked by Republicans( typical 75-25 split), you don't see a margin anywhere near what you see with African Americans. Homosexuals display a diversity of thought that is reflective of the diversity in their community, whereas African Americans do not.

 

We can make the best choices possible; knowing that we are in no way(s) perfect.