Do you believe in, 'white male privilege'?

As a women I never benefited from AA.

In fact, don't hire me because I am a women, only hire me if you believe I can perform the job. Better yet, I never applied for a job that I didn't qualify for or didn't feel that I was capable of performing and never had a problem getting a job.

 

White privilege was a thing 50 years ago. Now it's just a way for black people to play the victim card, something people are fidgeting to do these days.

 

I think it's a case of the grass always looks greener on the other side. Life is just as hard for everyone. Life is what you make of it with what you have to work with. Sure some people have a longer road but did anyone really expect everyone to be the same?

 

I see your pov. It doesn't change anything on the actual beneficiaries though. May not be you, but it definitely is someone of your demographic.

 

I worked in healthcare and was part of a team of people who worked together to help people get better. I also worked on the code team. Would you really want me getting the job just because I'm a woman or would you prefer to hire me because you know I can do the job? Would you want your family member taken care by someone who was hired based on color or gender?

My point, people should be hired based on knowledge and capabilities period.

 

Yes, this is ideal. Unfortunately, studies have shown that bias is strong in hiring practices.

 

Sorry, not in my profession.

Although when I was in my 20's I was working in the NICU. I walked into a patients room and it was obvious this man was in distress and could go into cardiac arrest. There was a young black nurse assistant in the room. When I saw the man I told her to get the nurses and started working on him, all the nurses came in and we did our jobs. We got to him in time.

About a week later I was called into the head nurses office. It turned out that the nurse asst had complained that I told her to get the nurses because she was black .. WHAT????? I was surprised at the, well.. I was shocked! When I said she was there and the patient was priority, the head nurse put her head down and quietly said, she's threatening to go to the NAACP and she agreed to have a talk with me. I understood her position and and she called an end to the meeting.

I never had anything like that happen before and never had an accusation like that after. It was a pathetic accusation. My point is, I could easily have soured from that but I didn't, she was an idiot and if places are afraid to hire people because of things like this... But I've worked with too many hard working whites and blacks to give people like you or her credit.

 

Anecdotal stories can't explain institutional bias. However, they can help make excuses for it.

 

You poor baby, you're defeated before you begin because you got yourself a fake excuse. Do you wear that attitude on your sleeve when you go for an interview?

 

Just a truthteller.

I never had problems with employment or job interviews *shrug*.

 

Well then what's your problem? Just move on

 

You're dismissed. I never said I had a problem LOL.

 

Good, then this tired old subject can be closed.

 

You're actually the individual that brought it back to life lol.

The thread doesn't have to be closed though. If people wish to contribute to it in the future, it should be open to them. There is no obligation to contribute to a thread when your interest of it expires. If you are no longer interested in it, feel free to unsubscribe to it.

Take Care!

 

But because you didn't like what I said you dismissed me lol

 

I don't understand why the nursing assistant got upset. But, part of your post confuses me. I thought NICU stood for newborn intensive care unit. Your post makes it sound like there was a grown man in the unit. So, I must be wrong.

 

NICU is Nuero Intensive Care Unit.

No, I don't know why either. As I pointed out before, these people who view the world as if everyone is holding them down have several issues..

a persecution complex, paranoid, inferiority complexes and anger issues. You can't help people like that, they'll always find something wrong with what you do, in her case needing assistance from a nurse assistant was enough for her to cry racism, and you certainly don't want to be around people like that.

 

Thank you for that clarification. I work in the healthcare field also. I am a middle aged African-American woman. There are indeed some people who look for racism in every little thing. I tend to not pay too much attention to these folks. But, there have been many times I've experienced real racism and have seen it directed at other Blacks and Hispanics as well. Just a few examples:
1) The time one of the young White nurses was angry at one of the Black nursing assistants and taped a picture of a big, ugly gorilla on the wall right where the nursing assistant could see it.
2) There was a family who reported me for trying to weigh their family member, saying I was too rough with him. I hadn't even touched him yet. Later a cute little blonde nurse went in to weigh him and they didn't say a word.
3) An elderly White woman needed help to go to the bathroom. She didn't want her daughter to help her, only a nurse. When she saw me she said to her daughter "It's OK. This (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*) Mammy can help me" .

I'm telling you about these incidents just to let you know that sometimes racism does rear it's ugly head on the job. I don't consider myself to be angry, paranoid or have an inferiority complex. So while I don't approve of that nursing assistant reporting you like that, who knows. Maybe she has had a painful experience somewhere along the line.
P.S. I've worked in the healthcare field for over 35 years and I've never reported anybody. Some advice: If you can help it don't ever report a co-worker---they never forget it.

 

Erayp, I bet you're a great nurse!

 

It is simply a lame idea not a thing

 

Right, they should just stick with White privilege. No reason for them to try and separate it all out.

 

That's truly pathetic. I worked in the healthcare field for about 24 years, way too long. That was really the only time I've experienced it and it (reverse racism). And having a prior experience does not give her the right to cry racism for nothing. I experienced sexism (once), I won't bore you with the details but that doesn't mean that I should treat all men as ignorant.

There are hard working, respectable whites and black and there are people who have a chip. There are mostly good people of all races, all income, all wealth, to be bothered with people who have persecution complex, paranoid, inferiority complexes and anger issues.

 

Thank you for the conversation, Erayp.

 

No such thing as that either

 

Except when you're an extremely handsome masculine white male homosexual shaman with severe body-dysmorphia & a hidden form of autism he doesn't know much about & speaks to spirits, but from a severely narcissistic, abusive dogmatic Lutheran Christian severely poor & oversized family who lives in a nice house only because it was inherited under a covert narcissistic abused lesbian who lied to your narcissistic abusive dad for social privilege, then divorced him and demonized him for cheating on her—but still keeps playing the victim & keeping up her illusions, can't pay the bills and neither can he because he emotionally abandoned you but is just a grocery boy at Acme, and everyone keeps pretending they love you to cover their ineptitude & covert scapegoating of you & outsiders believe it because there's so many of them.

Also add to the mix that you are a very well spoken poet with great skillsets due to autism & mysticism that you cannot express because you're stuck in redneck ville & conservative bs, but you're also very conservative yourself in many ways so you don't fit in with liberalists or conservatists, and your skillsets were acquire through years and years of personal loneliness & study you learned yourself because you were emotionally abandoned as the scapegoat in your family who convinces everyone on the outside that this isn't the case, & you keep up appearances to fit in, to compete with capitalism, to cope with your overwhelming body-dysmorphia & depression, & really your purpose is to be a shamanic, poetic muse but a handsome masculine intelligent white male with style doesn't fit this profile in anyway shape or form.

Not to mention, you spent your childhood building an online game you taught yourself to do, and it was supposed to be your salvation but then it was stolen by a man online who is now a millionaire because you were just a child and he traumatized you, and he keeps telling everyone he made it. I could go on and on.

I am unsure what's going on here, but I've been profiled beyond belief without any clue as to what was happening, and I was guilt-tripped and abused exponentially more until I literally cut my wrist open at the age of 28; there is a point where being a masculine, white male with intelligence, skills, and good looks is actually a detriment. People try to use you up, think of you as a sex object, they scapegoat you, accuse you, groom you, argue, oppress, ignore, ridicule, mock, play the victim, manipulate, demonize, and control you then silence you because "you have no pain or difficulty, and any difficulty you think you had was pretty much just a drop in a bucket and something you needed anyway to teach you a lesson". It took me a long time to realize what was happening, and at 30 years old I can say that after the age of 12 I think I've prayed for death every day of my life, and sometimes all day.