Do you not see? Democrats OBSTRUCTING JUSTICE!

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  1. Mike12

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    where did he ask for investigation to end?
    The investigation was supposed to focus on russia collusion and election interference. Trump was right to be concerned about investigation expanding into his business and other things. This is NOT OBSTRUCTION. He never tried to end investigation into russia collusion and election interference, just had concerns about mueller’s objectivity and investigation expanding into areas which weren’t supposed to be in scope.

    There is nothing here.. you all keep dreaming, fantasizing.. this is porn for you.

    In the end, nothing here is impeachable... it’s a disgrace to even think about impeaching... impeachment should be reserved for high crimes... for which even republicans in senate would support it, as with nixon. Let the american people decide in 2020 if mueller report shows president shouldn’t continue leading the country. You want to THWART the will of the american people. This is UNCONSTITUTIONAL, but you are a lefty, not surprising.
     
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    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...ructing-justice.556437/page-5#post-1070614178

    As for the rest... What the investigation was supposed to focus on is irrelevant in this discussion. What is relevant is that Trump obstructed it. And that that is a crime.

    However, your attempt at trying to change the subject is clear sign that you realize that. But your remaining cult mentality won't allow you to just acknowledge the fact.
     
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    He never obstructed anything. He has rights, just like you and i have rights. He had every right to be concerned about investigation expanding into areas it wasn’t supposed to. He simply wanted it to focus on what it was supposed to focus on - collusion with russia to commit crimes. Nothing was found, Trump was right all along, this was a witch hunt. He was concerned about Mueller for good reason, mueller unwisely chose people in his team that were proven to be biased against trump. Trump never wanted to stop investigation, just wanted mueller replaced with another special counsel and have investigation focus on what it was intended to focus on.

    The was no obstruction, no conspiracy to commit crimes.. NOTHING. This was a HOAX, a WITCH HUNT. The goverment spied on trump campaign based on fake, democratic russian paid for info. An american disgrace!

    No collusion, no obstruction! Nada

    Barr asked mueller if mueller didn’t charge because of OLC opinion and mueller told him NO, a fact you ignore even after i have brought it up repeatedly.

    You want to thwart the will of american people by impeaching for nothing, it’s an utter disgrace.
     
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    Sure.... because Putin is so obsessed with seeing the President of his country paying for his crimes, right?
     
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    Putin weaponizes his government against political opponents... something you seem to support as you don’t seem concerned about this. Instead, you want to defend a bogus witch hunt and impeach president for simply being angry, not trusting investigators, and wanting investigation to focus on what it was intended to focus on.
     
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    Oh!! You mean like using your AG to try to dig up dirt on your predecessor, and make up bogus claims of "spying", and go after the FBI for doing its job.

    You're right. I'm not too concerned about the fact that Trump is doing that. Democrats are used to this dirty Republican game anyway. I mean, there were a bunch of those initiated by the Republican Congress during the Obama administration. Even one in which they tried to go after the IRS for doing its job. Just like now they're going after the FBI for the same. And ....what was it?.... eight or nine about Benghazi.... I lost count. I'm really not concerned. Democrats were inconvenienced. And sometimes it looks like a stupid expense. But I like to keep everybody on their toes "just in case". In the end, we all found out that they were political stunts. That Republicans are full of it. As proven by the fact that there was not one political figure who was convicted. As a matter of fact, even Republican investigators concluded that there was no wrong-doing in their final reports.

    In the end, in those cases, just like in this one, it's always the Republicans who end up looking like idiots. Because they are.

    Your argument is so ridiculous it's breathtaking. Witch hunt? There are already people doing jail time. And a bunch more awaiting trial. How is that a "witch hunt"? And Trump's first crimes (obstruction) have been proven. And I say first, because this is just the tip. It's pretty obvious (opinion: sorta) that more are coming.
     
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    Says the people who want 13 year olds and felons to vote.
     
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    Sometimes you think that there must be something wrong with some of these Trump loyalists when they appear delusional but then you realize that no... that's just their natural state.
     
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    The AG is investigating what many believe was as weaponization of DOJ. How in the world could the intelligence agencies and DOJ spy on Trump based on a fake dossier which was funded by democrats and a dossier that relied on Russia info. Now you and the left want to obstruct justice but AG is not going to let this pass, HE WILL get to the bottom of this.



    Obstruction was never proven, DOJ already ruled there wasn't sufficient evidence to make an obstruction case against Trump. All you can do is discredit Barr, how pathetic is this? AD HOMINEMs is all you and the left have now! and you have completely ignored a fact i was presented to you NUMEROUS times - Barr asked Mueller if Mueller didn't charge because of OLC opinion and Mueller said NO! DING DING!! So if it's true that Mueller thought Trump obstructed justice but couldn't charge a sitting president per OLC opinion, then either Mueller or Barr is lying!

    The people doing jail time were indicted on stuff totally unrelated to conspiracy with Russia to interfere in election, which was supposed to the the main focus of investigation. Tax evasion, lying to FBI... NOTHING related to collusion with Russia to commit crimes. So yes, this was a HOAX, WITCH HUNT as what started it (collusion with Russia to interfere in election) was never found! So there was nothing there and everyone knew it. It all started based on a fake dossier, funded by the left, a dossier which actually colluded with Russia! YOU can't even make this stuff up!
     
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    I would not mind this 14 year old voting.

     
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    You may not force them to stop propagandizing us but you can batter them with truth. Won't matter to them.

    They never admitted that the stooge of a sitting president was AG Lynch.
     
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    Mueller's office denies inflammatory allegation in Wolff's new book

     
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    Well... good luck with that. We know nothing will come of it. But... that's why we pay taxes: so Republicans can use them for their continuous bogus investigations that they can drag into the electoral season.

    We're pretty much used to it by now.

    And don't bother arguing that they're not bogus. Because even if they're not... makes no difference.... because Republicans are too incompetent to indict anybody anyway. Hell! They couldn't even indict Hillary, or Obama or Holder or Lynch... or anybody! And considering they had control of Congress, Supreme Court, Presidency and had appointed scores of U.S. attorneys and judges.... If they couldn't get anybody indicted then... what hope would they ever have of indicting anybody now that they lost half of Congress?

    Forget it! Waste of time!

    Obstruction is proven. (http://www.politicalforum.com/index...imes-100-proven-in-the-mueller-report.556547/)

    DOJ is not a court and has no authority to "rule". Despite whatever Trump has told you and you have believed, this is not a dictatorship.
     
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    we shall see. Funny you talk about taxes... Mueller spent, what, 30 million + on a witchhunt? where was the russia collusion/conspiracy/coordination to interfere in election?




    Barr was Mueller's boss, yes, he has that authority. Obstruction was not proven, fact. Given Mueller didn't charge, you all then claim it's because of OLC opinion but Barr asked Mueller about this and Mueller confirmed OLC opinion wasn't a factor. We need to wait and see who's lying, Barr or Mueller! let the games begin
     
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    Yeah no Democrat has suggested lowering the age of voting or allowing felons to vote.

    Has never happened.

    You go ahead and retreat back to Narnia or whatever.
     

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