Does a higher education make you smarter? Is liberals really smarter?

I thought about getting into programing but I am not a fan of it. Learned the basic's of C and said nope don't really want to do it for a living.

College kind of works for me, though I hate writing papers as my written commutation skills aren't the best. I actually had to take 2 classes in English just so I could advance because my writing skills were so bad. In public school I couldn't write to save my life. Thankfully I could get an A or B in everything else without ever taking notes. I still don't take notes in class to this day or if I do it's just to look like I am because I know they won't likely be of use to me. The worst is when doing a power point as I just don't like explaining stuff to a roomful of people.

What I learned though after changing my mind 5 times is that BS parents say about going for your dreams or what you enjoy most is stupid. Work is work and trying to sugar coat it isn't helpful or productive. So go for the big bucks because that is the only thing in a job that matters. My mistake was believing there is work out there to be enjoyed, the only kind that exist is work that gets a pay check or that only wastes your time instead of giving you pay.

 

The grammar and spelling gestapo are rampant here.

 

Smarter, no.
More educated, yes.

Wiser? No.

Intelligence measures the speed at which you learn.
Educated is having successfully learnt something.

Wisdom is hindsight. The benefit of experience.

You may be miss-educated. That wouldn't be so smart or wise.
You may also be blinkered by your education. Spent time learning a narrow subject matter while your peers learnt a broader one outside of class. It may make you less wise and not more.

However an educated man is expected to know his subject better than an uneducated man.


Now, with the benefit of hindsight. I can say that most of those subjects I learnt at school that I knew would be of no use to me... have all been of much use to me.
Once in my toolkit, I am able to use those tools and the path of least resistance has been to do so. Not what I expected.

Life has been full of "not what I expected". There is more to come.

For example I ff'n hated school. Spent all day every day rebelling against it.
Couldn't wait to leave school.

6 months later. I was teacher.
Every single subject I studied at school I have now earnt money teaching.
Really didn't see that one coming.

My god, I taught Latin love poetry last month. Really?
That turned out to be of use to me? Funny old world.

 

The bottom line remains that many liberals are educated beyond their intelligence.

 

You sound more than a little bitter. Yes you can "go for your dreams" if you have a dream and are willing to pay the price it costs. It's rarely "big bucks" but it saves all the bitterness

 

Well that certainly isn't true of conservatives

 

No, a university diploma is not an indication of intelligence. In fact, it is people with university degrees that tend to say the most outrageous things. If anything at all, a diploma shows you are disciplined and determined.

Many people who lack university diplomas are really smart, but just chose to stay out of academia because they aren't sheeple like the others who only go there to get their "intelligence certificate" and not to actualluy learn.

 

A university diploma is an indication of intelligence.
And a higher score than your peers in that diploma differentiates your intellect from your peers in some measurable way.

But it is a specialisation.
Other disciplines are practised less when you focus on just the one.

Miss educated.

A bad teacher can teach you stuff that is wrong. Without the hindsight of experience you cannot tell.
So the political journey tends to go like this. We start left and end up right.

If you have a good teacher, you can skip the starting left part. But in all honesty, it's hard to tell who is right and who is wrong until after the results have come in. It takes time to become wise.

 

Bingo.. Education teaches you to look at facts dispassionately. .. and that identifies the basic problem with TRUMP.

 

Education teaches you what your educators think.
If they are right, it saves a lot of time. If they wrong, it wastes more.

That's the problem with education. Knowing who to listen to.


Let's give Einstein and Galileo as our examples.
They rejected the scientific consensus.

They were right to.
Their educators were wrong. What they taught made people dumber not smarter.

I won't teach climate change science. Wouldn't touch it with a barge pole.
Fake science.
I'll teach creationism on religion class. Climate change in current affairs.
But science class is for science. Sorry.

 

Education teaches you how to learn unless it s the Asian model which teaches learning by rote. Education teaches critical thinking.... and in the best schools it does so successfully.

 

think how much more money you would make if you finished

 

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Color us all shocked: your decision to open your response to the OP and criticize his grammar and sentence structure was meant as a kind-hearted helpful gesture.

Hey brudda: if you want to ladle out sewage and call it vichyssoise, don't be surprised if the patrons look at you like you've lost your mind. I'm perfectly comfortable forcing you to make ridiculous claims, and this stands emblematic of the honesty of the remainder of your post.

I don't drink things you invent. I am happy to have your assistance throwing dirt on your own gravesite.

There was nothing wrong with my statement, either in context or clarity. There was, additionally, nothing wrong with the grammar used, nor the sentence structure. You've invented offense to feebly attempt to keep yourself elevated in your own febrile mind.

The rest of this lunacy doesn't even justify a response. Your delusions are deep and complete, and you no longer need to write to yourself notes of reinforcement.

Keep them to yourself.

 

How do you know that?

 

I linked income to intelligence? No, I didn't. You weren't even RESPONDING to me, elbow patches.

You invent whatever it is you feel you need to in order to protect your psychosis.

 

google? do a search I edjikated myself http://howtoedu.org/college-facts/how-much-more-money-do-college-grads-make/ there is plenty of info on other sites

 

Oh I wasn't challenging you... but victor's nonsense.

 

You are making my point for me. If you had learnt how to crically analyse you would not consider climate science fake

 

It's fake science.
And I won't teach it in my science classes.

You may believe it to be fact. But it is not. It is opinion and little more.

Shall I teach you scientific method? Do you need to be reminded of the critical method of analysis that every 10 year old is taught?

If you think climate change is science, I don't think you know so much about science. Not even the rudiments.
Me, I know enough to teach it.

Ready for a lesson?

 

In ten year olds the frontal lobe is not completely developed.

 

I didnt think you did?

 

you need to be canned. closed minds are medieval.

 

Good.. Not to guild the lily, but I enjoy your posts and consider you very smart.

 

Galileo had some trouble with closed minds in medieval times.
Quite without scientific method, they had decided that the world was flat.

Only it isn't.

Einstein had troubles of his own with the consensus. What is popular is not to be confused with what is correct.
A long time ago it was theorised that the world was made in 7 days by God.
And if you disputed this, your peers would peck you into line. Your heresy would be "canned".

Things change.
Scientific method is not affected by a good story. Not affected by the popularity of any belief.
It is a method of critical analysis. That is all.

It can't be used in the climate change debate. Because there is no control group. Whatever else it is, it isn't good science.
Even if it turns out to be true, right now, there is no science to accurately describe it. You are running on faith in a good story alone.
You can call it science to further your political goals, but that is to misrepresent what science is.

So I'll teach scientific method to kids in science class, but not climate change. That is for politics class.

 

Read the graph in one of my earlier posts (see below), that shows the unemployment rate and median salary vs. education. Somebody with a bachelor's degree makes almost twice the salary of someone with high school odiploma only. More importantly the unemployment rate for the colleged educated is about half of those with high school only.