Does the US Suck??

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Does the US Suck??

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  2. No

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  3. Hell if I know???

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  1. Nonnie

    Nonnie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    America doesn't suck but weakened in the world's standing by Obama.
     
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    I know exactly where that's at, Echo Park in the Democrat run city of Los Angeles.
     
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    Pensions where not cancelled, just no longer offered.
     
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    Well Bonded Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And you are totally incorrect about America.
     
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    Childish answer.
     
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    Totally false.
     
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    Not at all, most of the U.S. is quite nice, the problems form in s-hole urban areas most run by entrenched Democrats who offer cradle to grave social services and in turn enslave the people who become victims by subscribing to those dead end social services.
     
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    What percentage of the population, do you think, feel this way? Honestly?
     
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    That is the basic theory of supply and demand. But what happens when those products/services are necessities (medicines, medical products) and there is little to no competition?
     
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    Is the US great?

    It used to be..
     
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    they're not just tolerated, they're supported by tax dollars & we've no one to blame but ourselves because, as a whole, we sat by & ignored it because we were complacent wallowing in our freedoms we fought for, we raised our children to not want for anything, we bent over backwards workin our arses off just to give them everything we never had, niw they've grown up, had their own kids whom now think its their right to have that sh*t & wants to share it with everyone else...

    humans will always kill themselves off, its inevitable & proven throughout history...
     
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    They are not trying to destroy it just come up with a plan that will make it sustainable which it is not at the moment, now if that requires cutting it back going forward that may have to be done as it will implode for everyone if nothing is done.

    The problem is far too many people in this country are very poor at math, think money flows from heaven and Social Security is fully funded, which it is not, it's a Ponzi scheme with todays benefits being paid for with money paid by those who are working and have yet to collect.
     
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    You may be interested to know that the latest projection has the combined Social Security trust funds that pay retirement and disability benefits running out of cash reserves in 2034. ... Even if Congress does nothing to shore up the system by 2034, Social Security will be able to pay out 79 percent of promised benefits until 2090.

    Now, take a deep breath and understand two things:

    1. People who were forced by the U. S. Government to pay constantly into the Social Security trust funds all their working lives right up until their day of retirement have EARNED every penny they're getting. EVERY PENNY. Do you really imagine for one minute that they're just going to 'roll over' and 'take it up the ass' if anybody tries to screw them on a retirement benefit that they have paid into all their lives...?!

    2. The big population 'bubble' drawing Social Security now consists of "Baby Boomers". How many Baby Boomers do you think will even still be alive in the year 2090 -- or even 2034?! The first "Boomers" were born in 1946... in 2034, they'll turn 88 years old! How many people live to be 88 years old...?

    Oh, and remember, no matter how many years a person pays into Social Security, from the month they die, they get NOTHING more....

    Oh, and remember one more thing -- "Baby Boomers" were the last decently-educated generation this country produced -- and -- they are famous for voting every chance they get.... :oldman:
     
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    Compared to 50 years ago, the U.S. sucks.

    Compared to the rest of the world in 2019, we don't suck. We look very, very good.
     
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    According to the CBO full benefits may cease as early as 2029, that means someone who is 49 today would receive much lower benefits then what current recipients are now receiving.

    Now for this to actually happen based on projections from the trustee's SS withholding would need to be increased to 21% today however if lawmakers wait until 2034 that amount would need to be raised to 32%, also current benefits will need to be cut 16% today and that would rise to 20% in 2029 and 32% in 2034.

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    They will have no choice and the Millennials will not give a damm, nor will they all pay into the system, many will just go underground and not pay income tax or into SSI.

    More than you realize.

    Guess you never heard of spousal benefits eh?

    And the Millennials will be voting too and they are going to be watching out for themselves, not granny or grandpa.
     
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    Sews yours.
     
  19. Pollycy

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    There are a lot of different opinions about 'when Social Security will "run out of money"', it seems. You may enjoy reading this:

    2018 Social Security Trustees Report: The 5 Things You Need to Know: https://www.fool.com/retirement/2018/06/06/2018-social-security-trustees-report-the-5-things.aspx . Or, if you like, you can read the 270-page .pdf of the report here: https://www.ssa.gov/oact/TR/2017/tr2017.pdf

    Anyway, in a 'nutshell': Social Security is still expected to run out of money in 2034.... Oh, the weighted-average of people who live to be 85 years old in the United States is a whopping 1.3%. How old will that first big crop of Boomers be in 2034? They'll turn 88 years old... thus, a very large number of them will be dead by 2034 -- and, as I said, THEY (husbands and wives) will collect nothing further at all... the money they would have continued to receive will stay in "the kitty" and be paid to others in the system....

    Next, you postulate that Millennials are just going to go "underground" and not pay any tax money to the government...? These are the same Millennials who are going to vote as a bloc for far-Left radical Democrats so they can get "free stuff"... right? But to get "free stuff" they're going to have to be very much above ground, and fully-signed up so that the government will know everything about them, where they are, how much they get in TAXABLE benefits, etc., etc.

    It was thought that the "Woodstock generation" (Boomers-without-a-clue) would live "off the grid", become field-hippies, "live off the land", eat 'weeds and seeds', and smoke marijuana all day while 'thinking great thoughts'. BUT, most came to their senses, got jobs, and started PAYING TAXES, among other 'normal' things.... Now, fifty years later, the Boomers-WITH-a-clue want their money -- and they're going to get it. Any political party that tries to cheat Boomers out of what they were forced to pay into is committing political suicide!

    Lastly, Millennials may be very poorly educated, but, they aren't stupid! And as committed as they are to "Nanny-state government" giving them more and more "free stuff", they'll be street-smart enough to realize that a government that can screw Mommy and Daddy is going to pull down their knickers and give THEM a real good screwing, too! :buggered:

    Conclusion: looks like the Federal Reserve System better keep on churning out imaginary money by the hundreds of billions, and buying even more toxic, overpriced "paper" from the "too-big-to-fail insiders" during the coming recessions. Oh, and while they're looking out for Wall Street, they'd better find "a way" to "save" Social Security, too.... The Fed's governors don't want to look out beyond the spacious grounds of their lovely estates and see throngs of peasants with pitchforks, and torches burning in the night... or, more likely, a rude alliance of 'grandpaws' and 'adult children' in camo-gear brandishing 'assault rifles'.... :twisted:
     
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  20. Qohelet

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    Good to know. Everything is just fine then, I guess.
     
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    It was the FDR years that began the decline of America. He managed to make the government, more powerful and more intrusive. He invented the concept of government social programs. He was the most dangerous president in my lifetime.
     

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