Donald Trump’s Apology Tour

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  1. dave8383

    dave8383 Banned at Members Request Past Donor

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    How bizarre is that?

    Notice it's "white" against "dark".
     
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    Duplicitous Don is already walking back his questioning of the US intel agencies earlier today in Helsinki. A necessity, no doubt encouraged by the few adults on his staff, after another blunder when Don said what he thinks. Never a good thing.

    Why do it by way of a tweet?

    So Don doesn't have to answer embarrassing questions from the media like, "WTF were you thinking?"
     
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    okay... either you didn’t get the refeeence or completely ignored it. Oh well.

    I don’t think you’ll have to worry about Hillary bots. She’s a has been... hopefully.
     
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    Rumors are that she is preparing for another run.

    You should keep up.
     
  5. AtsamattaU

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    Wow, you sound unhinged. You’ve jumped to comparing Democrats to Nazis in a thread completely unrelated to either. You deserve a Godwin award!
    This is both (a) total bullshit and (b) totally irrelevant since the blonde-haired senile imbecile occupying the White House is not Hillary, it’s your boy Trump. Hillary is out of the game, while Trump is blundering his way through it and blaming people on the sidelines for his own shitty play.
    /random unhinged rant, we hope.
    Glad you could get more baseless rants off your chest. You sound like a typical Stalinist wanting to outlaw a political party that opposes your own - there is only one “True Party,” right?
     
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    AtsamattaU Well-Known Member

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    Trump started that rumor because nothing gets his ignorant supporters frothing at the mouth like a boogeyman they can all believe in and agree to hate.
     
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  7. AtsamattaU

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    That’s fine, but I see trade in general as a good thing, something that keeps us out of war. Trump’s rhetoric is anti-trade at times and trade wars solve nothing.
    Amen to that.
     
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    I don’t trust rumors. Didn’t care for the album either (Rumours).

    We’ll all find out when, or if, she even announces another run at the presidency. At which point she will be at, or around, the same age (71/72ish) that some Democrats said was too old for John McCain to be president (http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/06/15/mccain.age/index.html). If they (Democrats) questioned McCain’s age, they’d have to question Hillary’s age to be consistent. If she does run the Republicans would be smart to use the 2008 question of McCain’s age against Hillary in saying that she’s “confused” or “lost her bearings”. They’d (Republicans) be foolish to waste good ammo like that.

    Aside from all of that, I don’t think she’s running again. It would be stupid on her part, given the above mentioned age question.
     
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    All of what you said Russia did happened during the Obama presidency, why is Obama not being called a puppet?
     
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    Because Obama responded with things like increased sanctions and calling Russia out for their behavior.

    Obama didn't respond by blaming America and trying to kiss up to Russia for their crimes.
     
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    To me, trade only keeps us out of war if it's reciprocal. There was always going to be a US-Chinese confrontation for example because losing billions in trade to one nation is simply unacceptable. It could have been Trump, it could have been someone else. Simply looking the other way wasn't acceptable.

    And that's a lot of what the Democrats did: Whether it was HRC telling coal workers to look for new jobs, or Obama saying that "those jobs won't come back" and it's a "new global order", the then-majority party was defeatist. In matters of economics and finances, the US was no longer a player. The story of the 21st century is that it's okay to protect a little, we should protect key vital financial cogs of America's economy to remain strong and not stagnant.

    With Europe, the trade war was undesirable, and it's because the EU wanted to maintain advantages unique to them. I see the EU and China as in very similar economic outlooks to America. The EU-Chinese partnership was actually starting towards the mid of Obama's 2nd term. As long as EU maintains similar financial policies, they have more in common than not.

    The dangerous game that the EU plays, is that while America had the genuine interest of protecting the European sphere(out of the self-interest of preventing conflict), China just wants to acquire it, as it has tried to acquire Australian valuable resources.

    China is a financial hegemon with military power. Russia is trying to hold onto the perception of its power in Eurasia. The ME has no prominent player, but rogue nations with nuclear and chemical weapons.

    And the EU is only relevant from the standpoint of its conflict with Russia. Outside of that, its goods aren't really reaching outside of non-EU States. Miltarily, the EU isn't going to threaten anyone. Only in a joint venture(NATO). That is for better or worse why Russia has contentions with NATO.

    From the US standpoint, I wanted to ally with a major eastern power. As Rand Paul said, all nations spy on each other so if we equal it all out, I think an alliance with China is preferable. China wants to take out Russia as much as we do, so as to expand its hegemony throughout Eurasia.

    Also, a Chinese-Japanese alliance will essentially protect Japan. That'll be difficult due to strained history between the two countries, but it's a venture I've always wanted to take on. Nothing could be more momentous for US foreign policy and US lateral strength around the world than a China-Japan alliance.
     
  12. AtsamattaU

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    OK, why isn’t she in jail then? Her political opponents control the government. What’s stopping them - besides the rule of law, lack of evidence, and the fantasy of it all I mean?
    Any republican president would have nominated the exact same judges. Trump gets ZERO credit for these appointments. He’s rubber stamping the Federalist Society’s picks. Trump’s taste in lawyers is evidenced by te crook Michael Cohen.
    Because he’s a demonstrable idiot and continues to showcase his supreme idiocy on a daily basis in office.
    Um, okay, you’ve clearly taken the blue pill of fantasy land that Sean Hannity offered you. All I can say is if you live long enough you will deeply regret that.
    We benefit more from a peaceful Europe than you are willing to admit.
    How can you say that when the buffoon you’re defending built his campaign on throwing stones at others! His entire platform can be summed up with (1) Obama and Hillary are evil, (2) Muslims are evil, and (3) immigrants are evil. Now he’s further dividing America with all this crap about how Democrats are evil. You want to say I’m living in a glass house, that’s fine. You are living with your head buried in the sand.
     
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    Except that trump is the biggest globalist of all.

    Check the link in my sig.
     
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    Nonsense. He's negotiating with serious people. Rule number one is you put them in their comfort zone as best you can yo put them off their guard. With most people it works better than bluffing and bullying. But being a leftist you wouldn't know that.
     
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    If you didn't like Rumors you are a communist.
     
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    Not to mention that he has violated the oath of office by shirking his responsibility to protect the country.........all because his massive ego, in constant need of reassurance, will not allow him to admit an enemy of the United States helped him get elected.
     
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    So much nonsense so little time. First, he built his campaign on not taking crap off of people, securing the borders and putting America first. Once upon time that was what all politicians did. The Dems since Kennedy have largely built their model on obtaining raw political power and screw American and Americans if they had to to get it.

    2.The only thing we know he has used Cohen for is real estate contracts.

    3, Because he works differently than the status quo doesn't make him an idiot and only a damn fool would believe that the guy who beat the best and brightest that the Dems and the Neocons had to offer at their own game is an idiot. He may not play the game the way you and others think he should. But that doesn't make him an idiot. Given his competition that just might make him the smartest guy in the room. You find your self in the position you are in today because you keep underestimating the man. You simply can't get your hate out of the way long enough to figure out what he does other than piss you off so bad you can't think straight, and because of that you will keep losing because it has become far more important for you to hurt Trump than it is to defeat him. And as long as you can't change that mind set you can't win.
     
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    well, okay then.
    Never been a Mac fan, aside from my MacBook.
     
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    But we already new that Russian almost certainly won't respond to that because constitutionally they cannot. Putin again reiterated that it wasn't a Russian operation as he consistently has at that point there is nothing Trump or any one else can do except start WWIII pardon me but rational people are going to pass on that. Rational people realize that there are thing you can accomplish and things you can't concentrating on the things you can't keeps you from being able to do the things you can.
     
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    Yet it is Trump who has armed the Crimeans, not Obama
     
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    NO one in the real world gives a tinkers dam about sanctions. It's the ultimate form over substance act issued by politicians to feckless or to scared to do something that really matters.
     
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    Did the West Break Its Promise to Moscow?

     
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    Exactly how many Crimeans has Trump armed?
     

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