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  1. John Sample

    John Sample Well-Known Member

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    Pretending the Republicans adopted a racist platform is a complete lie as well. Many voters in the South abandoned your party when the race issue was decided because you were anti-patriotic, Viet Nam protesting hippies who wanted high taxes and the rest of the socialist agenda. Once you could no longer offer racism, you had nothing in common with Southern voters. But please, tell us where Republicans have made segregation a party platform. You lost your fight for racism and now you are just projecting in a rather pathetic way. Nixon desegregated schools in the South. That is a documented fact.
     
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    Revisionism does not alter DOCUMENTED FACTUAL history. It was Ike who desegregated schools in the south and the racism that originated in the south still thrives in the south. To pretend otherwise is just a kneejerk denial of REALITY.
     
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    Boy, you really need to read up. The Civil Rights Act wasn't passed until Johnson and he didn't do squat to enforce it. Ike integrated one school in Little Rock. The bedrock of racism these days is in Northern cities like Chicago & Boston. I lived in Arkansas for a few years and while some gray hairs still used racist language, the kids were the most non-racist people I have ever seen. Their great grandparents were on the Civil War Memorial, and they were electing Black kids to be prom king & queen. 90% white school.
     
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    You don't have a clue. The two most segregated cities in the US are Detroit, Michigan and Chicago, Illinois.
     
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    Too bad there is ZERO substantiation for your anecdotes whereas there is FACTUAL DATA to establish that the South is where racism has always existed and still does. How many pickups with confederate flags do you see in Chicago and Boston compared to the south?
     
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    Ironic projection duly noted.
     
  7. John Sample

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    If you think you are presenting factual information, you are sorely misinformed. You are merely claiming DATA exists but can't produce it.

    But do you know what is really funny are lefties that say the American flag is just a piece of cloth, and if someone wants to walk on it or burn it it is no big deal. Then show them a picture of the General Lee from Dukes of Hazard and they have a meltdown that dwarfs Fukushima.
     
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    Irrefutable and undeniable factual data source!

    https://www.splcenter.org/hate-map
     
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    LOL. SPLC? It is irrefutable that they are themselves a far left hate group. But thanks for the belly laugh.
     
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    Kneejerk denial of factual reality duly noted and ignored for obvious reasons.
     
  11. John Sample

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    LOL. How are the SPLC offshore accounts doing? Better than their non-existent court cases, I trust.
    They have been utterly discredited and that is a factual reality. If you care about that kind of thing.
     
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    There certainly is racism in the South.

    Take the state of Louisiana. One party there nominated an Indian (India-Indian) for governor. The other party -- so I read -- circulated a leaflet with this man's photo, but with a slight alteration: his skin was made even darker in the photo than it was in real life. Fortunately, he won anyway.
     
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    There is racism everywhere. It is certainly not exclusive to the South. Or this country. But it is worth pointing out that Bobby Jindal was the Republican candidate and the racism came from the other side.
     
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    Could someone help me out here?

    I've been looking at this group, the Quilliam Foundation. It seems to be a Muslim group .. but is it a 'hate group'? Here's their website: https://www.quilliaminternational.com/

    Is it a hate group?
     
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    I don't think their own site would give that away. I'll bet the KKK site depicts them as Boy Scouts helping old ladies across the street.
     
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    Well ... if the KKK's site said "We work for reconciliation of the races and look forward to overcoming centuries of racial oppression" ... I would be ... astonished.

    What they do say -- or what one Klan group says -- is this:
    So they're pretty open about their aims.

    But looking at the Qulliam Foundation site ... I didn't find anything similar: nothing about wanting to live separate from Muslims, or wanting to live separate from non-Muslims ... nothing about Muslims (or non-Muslims) damaging a society immensely if they try to integrate into to ...

    In other words, I'm puzzled as to why some people would think the Qulliam Foundation is a hate group.... maybe someone who is more astute than me at seeing hate-code-words could explain why it could be considered by some people a 'hate group'.
     
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    Apparently Quilliam was established by Muslims. So I agree with you. But there are those like the SPLC that want to tear down any group that does not want to destroy Western Civilization. If you like ice cream you are a hate group to them.
     
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    Kneejerk denialism of reality repeated!

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    Yes, it didn't seem like any sort of hate group to me. However, the Southern Poverty Law Center apparently thought it was. The SPLC published a guide to anti-Muslim hate groups -- A Journalist’s Manual: Field Guide to Anti-Muslim Extremists -- and included the Qulliam group in it.

    So I was wondering why.

    Perhaps someone here who admires the SPLC and believes their classifications are always accurate, could look at the Qulliam site and show me what made the SPLC classify it as a hate group. Or perhaps there is some information, not on the site, that made the SPLC say it's a hate group.
     
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    Are you referring to these comments by the SPLC?

    https://www.splcenter.org/splc-statement-video

    https://www.splcenter.org/news/2018...egarding-maajid-nawaz-and-quilliam-foundation

     
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    Doug1943 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'd be interested in your view of the Quilliam Group. Do you agree with the SPLC assessment of them as a 'hate group'? And if so, why?
     
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    Did you miss post #245 above?
     
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    Of course they want 14 year old voters. A typical 14 year old has spent his entire life living in a situation where everything is provided for free and all they have to do in exchange is be obedient and subservient.
     
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    Doug1943 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes, I did miss it.

    So ... the SPLC wrongly labelled an organization as a 'hate group', and had to apologize for it.

    Do you think they may have done this in other cases?
     
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    Will you be here all week? You really are funny, but in a sad kind of way. :)
     

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