Dossier fails the test of time; Trump-Russia collusion claims now called 'likely false'

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  1. Bluesguy

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    The attack is it contains unverified information you can refute that by posting what has been verified. Still waiting.
     
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    "The attack"?
     
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    The Trump partisans fail to meet the test of time on the FISA warrant and Steele's dossier.

    They cannot present an evidenced case.

    They, like the rest of us, have to wait on Mueller, and they are terrified of what will be released, as well they should be.
     
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    Then it contradicts itself
    Like what?

    So then why was it submitted to a FISA court as evidence in order to get a warrant to spy on a political campaign?

    As I said, speculations, conjecture, suppositions are NOT evidence and prove nothing.
    I gave you the list of the 10 allegations noting how there is no proof of any of them. Refute it.
     
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    I was mimicking the poster, perhaps you are correct and it should have been in "quotes".
     
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    And once again the Trump partisans can only offer guesses nothing else. Bluesguy is correct that "speculations, conjecture, suppositions are NOT evidence and prove nothing," yet that is all the far right can work with yet condemn the anti-Trumpers for pointing out the deficiency of that approach.
     
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    sorry I meant to reply to another post not this one
     
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    No, you are looking for an angle but your original premise is flawed. You are assuming your OP is legit and correct while it really is a pure opine with no facts or timeline while my link is an opine that follows known facts and timelines but still an opinion but a professional one.
     
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    Oh I get it. You have to imitate my previous post almost word for word as a response. But copying my post won't save you. It was your initial proposal that that the Steele Dossier was garbage. Unless you clarify that you didn't mean the entirety of the document was garbage no one has to guess what you meant. . So after you made this dumb proposal you find that you can't prove a word of it. Your problem.
     
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    Oh I get it. You have to imitate my previous post almost word for word as a response. But copying my post won't save you. It was your initial proposal that that the Steele Dossier was garbage. Unless you clarify that you didn't mean the entirety of the document was garbage no one has to guess what you meant. . So after you made this dumb proposal you find that you can't prove a word of it. Your problem.

     
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    Oh I get it. You have to imitate my previous post almost word for word as a response. But copying my post won't save you. It was your initial proposal that that the Steele Dossier was garbage. Unless you clarify that you didn't mean the entirety of the document was garbage no one has to guess what you meant. . So after you made this dumb proposal you find that you can't prove a word of it. Your problem.

     
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    Oh I get it. You have to imitate my previous post almost word for word as a response. But copying my post won't save you. It was your initial proposal that that the Steele Dossier was garbage. Unless you clarify that you didn't mean the entirety of the document was garbage no one has to guess what you meant. . So after you made this dumb proposal you find that you can't prove a word of it. Your problem.

     
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    There is nothing flawed about the premise the dossier remains unproven gossip and you nor anyone else has been able to show any of it which has been proven to be fact. And THAT is what was used to obtain a FISA warrant on an American citizen so that high level officials at the DOJ and FBI could assist the DNC and Clinton campaign to defeat Trump and then after he won to try and remove him from office. And Isikoff is quite a professional, remember he broke the story.
     
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    Oh I get it. You have to imitate my previous post almost word for word as a response. But copying my post won't save you. It was your initial proposal that that the Steele Dossier was garbage. Unless you clarify that you didn't mean the entirety of the document was garbage no one has to guess what you meant. . So after you made this dumb proposal you find that you can't prove a word of it. Your problem.

     
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    And I disagree with you and your OP opinion piece as nothing in the dossier has been proven false or incorrect to date.
     
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    Wrong there's no spin in asking a fellow poster to show evidence for a proposal that he/she puts forth. On this venue it's done all the time.


    QUOTE="Professor Peabody, post: 1070062883, member: 4888"] Oh my! Was this piece of garbage used as part evidence to get FISA warrants to spy on the Trump Campaign? [/QUOTE]
     
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    Wrong! There's no spin in asking a fellow poster to show evidence for a proposition that he/she puts forth.


    QUOTE="Professor Peabody, post: 1070062883, member: 4888"] Oh my! Was this piece of garbage used as part evidence to get FISA warrants to spy on the Trump Campaign? [/QUOTE]
     
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    The partisan right wing can double down on nothing against the dossier.

    FISA Court counts, and the right does not on this issue.
     
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    Just an FYI, David Corn broke the story of the dossier. Your information or memory is flawed.
     
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    The Deep State attempted soft coup against a duly elected POTUS has damaged our political institutions more than Putin could ever dream of. Truly the enemy within.
     
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    The deep party apparatchiks of Trump have damaged our country's political and cultural institutions more than Putin could ever hope to do. Truly the alt right and their deep party allies are the enemy.
     
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    CNN should be deported
     
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    Another lefty who won't accept the election results.
     
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    I said it was garbage and I stand by my opinion.
     
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    Saying that I said it was 100% garbage when that's not what I said at all, is disingenuous at best an a lie at worse. You added the 100% not me.

    Where does it say 100%? :roll:
     

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