Dossier fails the test of time; Trump-Russia collusion claims now called 'likely false'

Well said.

 

That sounds like sour grapes, that you're realising the collusion claims are not going to do the job but blame Trump anyway?

 

Really we won't know until the Meuller probe delivers but frankly if they had anything it would have surfaced by now. I think Trump and his supporters just don't want it dragging on into 2020 to smear him during the election campaign.

 

Trump needs to de-classify all the documents and make them public.

 

You just said the whole purpose.

 

Paul7, the House elections rejected Trump's world.

No one can prove the Dossier as wrong or garbage, Professor Peabody. In fact, FISA and Mueller opine differently, which counts.

The sour grapes by reasonablerob is just sad: the House is Blue because the President failed.

 

They are writing partners and

"Michael Isikoff, the journalist who was first to report allegations from the Steele dossier, said in a new interview that many of the salacious allegations in the document are “likely false.”

The investigative reporter who broke the first story based on allegations from Christopher Steele offered a surprising assessment of the former British spy’s infamous dossier, which alleges a vast conspiracy of collusion between the Trump campaign and Russian government."
https://dailycaller.com/2018/12/17/michael-isikoff-steele-dossier/

The burden is on the accuser to prove the accusation. You have ZILCH evidence to support any of them.

 

The fact so much has been made about non-collusion 'process' crimes (crimes related to the investigation itself, in other words, no investigation, no crime) tells you there isn't much there regarding collusion.

 

Almost all presidents lose House seats in their midterms, Clinton and Obama lost more, yet were re-elected. Whatever dissatisfaction against Trump means nothing until you have a real life flesh and blood candidate to run against him. I think he could be beaten by a moderate Democrat, but they are about extinct. I predict they will nominate some crazy, who will be beaten.

 

It was a statement of fact, I'm not even American so it matters relatively little to me. But think of all the Dem presidents who had a red house, did they also fail?

 

The only nonsense about 'process' crimes comes from the nutty far right.

 

Reasonablerob, the American people soundly and solidly rejected and whipped the GOP for the people's chamber in Congress.

That is a statement of fact.

 

No, look at Obama's debacle over campaign contributions? Look at Clinton's obstruction of justice and failure to pay taxes over Whitewater? All they ever got were fines. This fantasy that Trump will one day be led away in handcuffs and stuck in a cell is just that (not least because President Pence would pardon him, as George W has stated he would have done with Clinton).

Dems have got to stop looking for a miracle and instead find a candidate who will recapture the centre ground and stop pandering to extremes.

 

Utterly true but the same with Clinton and Obama.

 

The answer for #263 if off track and makes little sense in context of 2019.

Yes, #264 is in context, and if it holds true for Obama, 2020 will be a Dem sweep of Congress and the WH.

 

1. Do elaborate

2. Possibly, we'll see.

 

I can elaborate on #263 if it does not make sense.

If Trump continues Trumping, 2020 is going to be a very good year, as Sinatra used to croon.

 

Well go on then, if you can elaborate do so?

 

Why? I think you want to quarrel. So can you restate it, so I can understand it?

 

And the American people soundly and solidly reject the Dems platform in the other elected 2/3rds of government. Guess that tells us all we need to know.

 

Nor do I. That anything Trump might be found guilty off (a minor miracle given the GOP's dominance of the Senate and the tenuous nature of the allegations against him) would result in anything but a fine as Barack and Bill's violations did. Even if President Pence didn't pardon him as George W said he would with Clinton?

 

If you are saying, Reasonablerob, that nothing legally will happen to Trump before he leaves office in January 2021, (unless Mueller finds him sacrificing infants to Moloch), I agree. When Trump is defeated in the primaries, he will resign so that President Pense can pardon him.

 

That's quite a prediction. Again, we'll see. But again even if Trump is found guilty precedent states he'll only face a fine.

 

In case you haven't been paying attention, Nancy Pelosi has taken the spotlight as the Democratic leader, and she is clearly leading a well coordinated effort to define the Democratic party's program.

She has Trump hiding in the White House.

No, removal is not necessary. Pelosi is taking advantage of Trump's adolescent stupidity to drive a wedge straight through the Republican party, with Trumpsters out there on the far right, and Wall Street and big oil on the other.

 

To what end? All they can do is impede him as a red Congress repeatedly did to Bill and Barack. They cannot bring him down.