Dr. Zbigniew Brzezinski; America Should Stop Putin From Restoring Czarist Empire

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  1. litwin

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    no, just respect the current borders
     
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    you talk about Hans totalitarian goverment ,right?
     
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    the change of the current border is respect of it or not?
     
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    i never used word change, its your favorite word
     
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    u r on the right lines . If respect the current boundaries they will never change.It's not good
     
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    why do you think so?
     
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    me.
    if don't optimize borders the Roman and the Byzantine Empire would still exist , mankind wouldn't have evolved, it would be stagnation
     
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    That's odd because I've never known a thief to hold a furious grudge over a failed theft. They always go to the next gig.
     
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    agreed, in 1year from now, we ´ll optimize ulus Muscovy borders
     
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    Who are "we"?
     
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    Ask for a start, at what point are subsidies among all regions of Chechnya, Russia. And Putin is not going to capture Ukraine. And about Chechnya, you'd better not to talk, but you can remember part of your Baltic is in this war.
     
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    of cos not, your gas -station cant even control D-stan, Chechnya . soon you guys will leave Crimea as well

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    Atlantic civilization/ anti-ruSSki mir
     
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    facepalm
     
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    good luck but ukr borders should be optimized before
     
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    The Pole's first had to endure a Nazi Invasion and then had to endure decades of Soviet imposed Communism.

    It was the Pole's that were the first one's brave enough to protest their Soviet imposed Communist Government and it was the Pole's who created the first CRACK in the Iron Curtain.

    I have a lot of respect for the Pole's.

    And they really do not like Russian's at all.

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    world community supports Ukrainian state , Muscovy is an outcast ...
     
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    Russia already signed an agreement to recognize an Independent Ukrainian State and such recognition as well as an agreement that Russia would not either invade or interfere with an Independent Ukraine between Russia and the U.S. was part of the DEAL in which the U.S. Military sent Nuclear, Chemical and Biological Weapons Destruction Teams to both Russia and all former Soviet States as the U.S. first purchased then destroyed all those old Soviet Weapons.

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    with all respect, Balts , Belarusians, Ukrainians did it before the Poles

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    it dint help much ...
     
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    They did it unsuccessfully.

    It was the Pole's that really brought it to the attention of the world media.

    As far as Russia and specifically Putin breaking the DEAL with us....Russia has paid a very high price in doing it.

    The U.S. has demonstrated to Putin and the world that it has the ability to control the worlds oil prices and thus control the health of the Russian economy.

    The Russian Economy continues to decline and there will come a time where the Russian Economy becomes so bad that either Putin or the Russian people will have to ask the U.S. for help as the European's will not help Russia considering the huge amount of money they lost investing in Russian Private Companies that Putin seized.

    The Chinese were only interested in investing in Siberian Energy Production when Oil Prices were high.

    Now that Oil prices are low and they will get lower....China can buy oil much cheaper from other nations as the costs of producing a barrel of Siberian oil will become HIGHER then the price of a barrel of oil on the open market will be.

    Oil supplies will continue to increase thus higher supply than demand will cause oil to continue to drop in price.

    The U.S. and Canada will be producing more oil than we need so we will be exporting oil along with OPEC Nations, South America and Iran as as Iran has signed an agreement with the U.S. as far as it's Nuclear Program....Iran will once again be producing and exporting oil.

    Plus all the Oil that Saudi Arabia and other OPEC Nations usually reserve for the U.S. will become available for sale when the U.S. and Canada become 100% Energy Self Sufficient in 2023.

    All that oil being available for sale means lower oil prices.

    So who is Russia going to be able to sell Oil to when Russia cannot sell it at such low market prices as they would be LOSING MONEY.

    Siberian Oil is extremely costly to produce and get to market.

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  21. Jeannette

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    Seems Poland's ambitions for its former empire, is carrying them away. Wait until the Spring, when the movie with the Banderite atrocities of WWII comes out. Then there will really be a call to arms.

    President Duda wants his men to prepare for war:


    "I call on all citizens of the Republic of Poland to be ready to fight for the return of the former Polish lands, where our compatriots continue to be harassed and humiliated by the new Ukrainian leadership.

    If modern Ukraine condemns the acts of the Soviet Union - and it does, this state should voluntarily return the land of Poland, that belonged to it until 1939. We're doing some work for the return of Polesie, Galicia and Volyn, and we need the support of the entire population of the Republic of Poland. Every citizen of the country must be prepared for the righteous struggle for the return of Polish territory and that is home to a huge number of ethnic Poles who need our protection," said Andrzej Duda, speaking in the Polish Parliament.

    The Hungarians want their lands back as well. Seems the only one that wants to keep Ukraine a unified and multi cultural state is Russia.
     
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    Hmmm, I wonder if Poland will want Vilnius back next?
     
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    God bless America.

    Are you suggesting that Europe will remain a US pawn by stint of US military force?

    Thought so.

    PS, check out the latest news about the repudiation of the democratic election in Portugal and the pure happen-chance of a NATO exercise Trident Juncture.

    PPS, the main media are not exerting themselves reporting the fact that Portugal won't allow the left to take office even though they won the election hands down but instead insists that the right continue to govern. Hhmmm.

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    I have no idea what you're saying, actually.
     
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    What are you talking about mate? Minority governments have been common for a long time. It is up to the left in parliament to use their majority if they can. Historically they have been extremely bad at working together on the left.
    But nothing is decided yet. The next few days and weeks will either see the right create a minority government if the left can't agree, the left create a government or some kind of unity government.
     

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