Egyptian President 2012 (Breaking News)

Both the media and the politicians fool the Egyptians and constantly lie to them.
Take for example the following "interview":

The Camp David Accords are meaningless, they had been signed as a framework for the peace treaty between Israel and Egypt. Since the peace treaty had been signed, camp david is void.
Now, both the press and the candidate know that, but it is a predefined question set by the candidate for the press in order to show the "people" that he is a strong leader.
Since he said nothing about the peace treaty, he means nothing will change.
This tells me the whole interview is a scam to fool simpletons who read it.

 

Fotouh wins in Russia with Sabahi second

 

Fotouh wins Chicago with Sabahi second

Bravo it seems the ex pat Egyptians are not voting the felool mafia back into power!!!

Hopefully Egyptians at home will be smart also

 

Morsi wins in Riyadh

 

I'm not keen on results being announced before most have even voted. I wonder too why Egyptians living abroad should have much say in who becomes president afterall they are not going to be living with the consequences unless they are contract workers with families back home of course. Are all Egyptians living abroad able to vote?

 

That's an extremely over-simplified attempt at assessment. All Egyptians will live with the consequences of their vote- that's what democracy intends- and they are to be applauded by including, as far as is possible, all of their citizens in the process. It's an admirable model which should be emulated. The West can learn a lot from the Middle East's improvements on democracy as an acceptable system- which it no longer is in the West. The Palestinians have stated that all of their nation will be consulted over any issues affecting them- and that includes the 5-6 million in the refugee diaspora. They see any failure to include everybody as undemocratic and I agree.

 

How is it extremely oversimplified and does that go for your reply?

What will be the consequences for an Egyptian born and having lived all his life here in Denmark and how do these compare with those when voting for the local authority which for example makes decisions on income taxation? You have more admiration for a system in which someone who has lived their entire life in a country has no vote because they have a foreign nationality than you do for a country where residency is also taken into account so that foreign nationals are given some voting rights while nationals living abroad have none. I believe such strong nationalism is outdated in the modern era and it is the system which incorporates residency which is the improvement. Apart from that your claim about democracy in the Middle East is derisory. As I have tirelessly pointed out essential requirements for democracy include freedom of expression, equality before the law, officials once elected are held to account, civil liberties, human rights etc. etc. so that voters are adequately informed and free and able to vote according to their own best interests as they see them. Only someone with a twisted mind who lies and deceives could possibly claim that the West can learn from democracy in that region.

Link please where all of the Palestinian nation will be consulted over any issues affecting them. How is Palestinian citizenship attained bearing in mind the many stateless Palestinian refugees?

 

No, there's a thread on it. Research it yourself. You'll find that the extraneous information will fill some voids for you.

 

A juvenile and nonsense assertion as I've just made that claim myself.

Western democracy has been corrupted. In the Middle East they have a clean slate and the corrupted Western model as a perilous template.

 

What possible attraction could there be for a homogenous lump of national character-free humanity ? People of any nationality should be able to take part in the elections of their nation no matter whereabouts in the world they are or how long they've been there. This is the 21st century. We'll soon have an improved democratic system which votes electronically more frequently than the laughable 4-5 years on offer by the sitting billionaires . Egypt is setting a fine example on valuing the votes of its nationals.

 

What possible attraction could there be for an homogenous lump of national character-free humanity ? People of any nationality should be able to take part in the elections of their nation no matter whereabouts in the world they are or how long they've been there. This is the 21st century. We'll soon have an improved democratic system which votes electronically more frequently than the laughable 4-5 years on offer by the sitting billionaires . Egypt is setting a fine example on valuing the votes of its nationals.

 

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The Palestinian example is a very powerful one in that the stakes on offer are far greater than those found in the general run of referenda. They will be voting on a literal existential matter.

 

Massive rally in support of Fotouh in Gezira last night with a big mix from all walks of life and ages. Broad spectrum of supporters including women and Copts and youth and old, Islamist and secular.



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Shafik presser turned violent and his supporters are attacking others.
It's time for Shafik to quit this race as it is getting really violent wherever he goes now!

 

Massive rally in support of Fotouh in Gezira last night with a big mix from all walks of life and ages. Broad spectrum of supporters including women and Copts and youth and old, Islamist and secular.



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Shafik presser turned violent and his supporters are attacking others.
It's time for Shafik to quit this race as it is getting really violent wherever he goes now!

 

Abu, you've got to do something about those Western suits ! They all look like mafiosos at an IRS inquiry. Don't you got some good clothes designers who can come up with a distinctive fashion for your new democrats ? Break the mold, man- it's a time of opportunity.

You need somebody like this guy;

http://www.formallyknownas.com.au/

 

More evidence of twisted thinking.....

Democracy doesn't start from a clean slate it starts from a respect for human dignity and from the many cases, for eg. bloggers like Michael Nabil, the infamous virginity tests, Lara Logan etc. Egyptians are far from having that.

 

It gives them stature Moon among a people thirsting for US/Western culture. Sure they have designers, clothing and textiles is big in Egypt they just like to emulate US/Western culture.

 

I was thinking more Egyptian flavour

what about this for the Minister of Tourism



Minister of Interior



Minister of Education

 

Shafik supporters have been thrown out of the Press Syndicate and MPs are trying to get past them fighting in the street outside to the presser.

Disgusting just like Paris Shafik supporters!

 

Who said the aim of the exercise was to make things attractive to twisted minds? You are really a nationalist aren’t you? A stateless person doesn't have a nationality by definition and a good many Palestinians are stateless. The Eskimo nation is Inuit but they can have Danish, Canadian US or Russian nationality and those with Danish nationality are more often known as Greenlanders and have self rule. That's basically where your anachronistic nationalistic sentiments fall apart. Democracy is about the people determining public policy, the laws and the actions of the state under which they live, in short ruling over themselves. Its not about people living in foreign states having a say irrespective of any allegiance or identity characteristics they may have.

What evidence do you have that electronic voting will shorten the period between elections? Egypt doesn't value the votes of its nationals as it doesn't make any effort to improve the conditions towards a free civil society with HR etc.

 

Raya and Sekina ( Mussa and Shafik ) The two female serial killers from Alexandria who killed women for their gold jewellery

 

Mussa supporters in Alex

 

So smear campaigns is the Egyptian way. Maybe you should try serious discussion on the issues instead?

 

Reports from Italian reporter at the Mussa Presser says it's like the old NDP conferences

You can sit an upper Egyptian on a thoroughbred Arabian horse but he is still an Upper Egyptian!

 

A very good photograph. The Russian revolution gave rise to many fine representational paintings on the same theme.