I made the point awfully clear with the bit of the post you failed to quote. England should have Edmund the Martyr. When do you think these tedious nationalists are going to educate themselves over English history?
I think England should have the saint already chosen. Do you have any objections to my local Church of England church flying the flag of St George? Incidentally, I have a fine stone statue of St Edmund standing in my garden. He was rescued from an old church school that was being demolished. The wreckers didn't even know who he was despite the attached church being named after him.
There is a campaign underway by a group of people to have England's patron saint changed from St George to St Edmund the Martyr, who was king of the Anglo-Saxon kingdom of East Anglia from 855 to 869. St Edmund is the patron saint of pandemics, kings, the Roman Catholic diocese of East Anglia, and Douai Abbey in Berkshire. Churches dedicated to his memory are to be found all over England, including St Edmund the King and Martyr's Church in London, designed by Sir Christopher Wren during the 1670s. As well as the above, St Edmund was also the patron saint of England, but he was replaced by St George during the Middle Ages when Edward III associated George with the Order of the Garter. In 869, the Great Heathen Army - a combined force of Danish and southern Swedish Vikings that invaded England in 865 - advanced on East Anglia and killed Edmund. He may have been slain by the Danes in battle, but by tradition he met his death at an unidentified place known as Haegelisdun, after he refused the Danes' demand that he renounce Christ: the Danes beat him, shot him with arrows and then beheaded him, on the orders of Ivar the Boneless and his brother Ubbe Ragnarsson. According to one legend, his head was then thrown into the forest, but was found safe by searchers after following the cries of a wolf that was calling, "Hic, Hic, Hic" – "Here, Here, Here". Commentators have noted how Edmund's death bears resemblance to the fate suffered by St Sebastian, St Denis and St Mary of Egypt. The campaign to have St Edmund restored as the patron saint of England also want, of course, the St George's Flag replaced by the St Edmund's Flag as the flag of England. This is the St Edmund's Flag: I don't think there's much appetite throughout England for St George to be replaced, though.
I know about the campaign for St Edmund. It was started by Greene King, the brewery, and has been getting quite a lot of support in Suffolk. Its supporters can sign the e-petition here. It's not the first time people in Suffolk have tried to get St Edmund promoted over St George.
Quite honestly I'm offended by that stupid "Milky Way wrapper" EU flag, but that doesn't mean I think it should be banned just because it's not to my personal liking. The people really offended by the British and English flags are the selfish quislings who will quite happily sell their own nation and its people down the river for their own personal gain.
Terrible idea. It would be concreted over in no time and the money soon pissed up the wall by politicians.
Its non-nationalised land that is concreted over (including CofE land when they want some more funds). Turn it into common ground and eliminate the tragedy of the anti-commons
Won't happen. The government [as did the last one and the one before that] is busy privatising everything it can.
I didn't say the government would show sense. In the mean time I'll just have to boycott the local church. Perhaps join the zombie hoards that visit B&Q every Sunday?
When England was Great Britain, it stubbornly resisted the Nazis and saved the world from a long dark night of fascism. Today, the UKuleles of the United Q'ingdom have meekly surrendered to the Nazislamis, which the corporate quislings have let invade their island as part of outsourcing trade deals, collaboration with jihadist OPEC, and globalism.
Only to draw the organ when in primary school. I'll just scowl aggressively when I walk the dog past the woman's institute types coming out after a good god-bothering. That'll show em!
Hate-filled abu izzadeen told the home secretary "how dare you come to a muslim area?" !!! Watch - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kU2_iBCf34
Your lot scrape the bottom of the barrel you really do! Go on my son ... You can do better .... Reach up. You might even reach the gutter if you really make the effort , Highlander
Yeah, I remember that. That was in 2006. That guy was a disgrace. Izzadeen came from Jamaica originally and then he comes over to Britain and tells native Britons - in this case the then Home Secretary John Reid - that they cannot walk in areas of their own cities because they are "Muslim areas". If I had been the Home Secretary at the time I'd have kicked him out. I bet the Jamaicans would have welcomed him back with open arms. - - - Updated - - - I think the EU flag should be banned from all public buildings in the UK. The only flags I approve of being flown from public buildings in England is the St George's Flag and the Union Flag. The UK should be out of the EU and have nothing to do with its horrible flag.
There are areas of cities out of bounds to whites. All part of the government's "divide and rule" policy.
What about regional flags like the flag of Wessex or the city of London? What about the Royal Standard?
St. Patrick wasn't British because that identity did not exist in the Fifth Century of the Common Era. St. Patrick was a Romanized Celt. They were the residents of what was the Roman province of Britannia. This was before the infusion of blood and identity from the Angles, Saxons, Jutes, Norse, Danes, and Normans. At the time of St. Patrick British identity was more than a thousand years in the future.
The Royal Standard should still be flown from all royal residences when the monarch is in residence. Regional flags are okay, too. But anything daft like the EU flag and the gay pride flag should be banned. - - - Updated - - - You're being a bit pedantic there. St Patrick was a native of the island of Britain. Therefore he was a Briton. We call Neolithic people "ancient Britons" so I can't see why we can't call St Patrick a Briton.
When it comes to history I like precision. The original acient Britons were wiped out by the Celts. Did the Celts then become the Britons? What about the Romano-Britons? What about the Angles? Were they Britons? How could they be Britons when they disposed the Romanized Britons? Were the Danes Britons after they pushed into Essex? You treat the term Briton as a matter of geography while I treat the term as a matter of historical identity.
If you are going to be pedantic then you had better be right. You aren't.'Britain' is a Word of P-Celtic Origin and it refers directly to the Geographical location of Ynys Prittani (The Island of Britian)and themselves (the P-Celts) as Prittani therein. So the British are those who speak a varient of Welsh. In any case DNA evidence shows that the vast majority of us British have maternal DNA that goes back 10,000 years in these islands so it looks like waves of invaders just took local wives.
The etymological take on the world traces Great Britain to Great Land of the Tattooed. The combination of the Greek word 'prettanoi', meaning tattoed people, and the Celtic word, 'brit', meaning light coloured or speckled, is behind the modern name. Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...eveals-origins-place-names.html#ixzz2WrzkPt8g Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook The only descendants of those Britons are as you say the Welsh. And to what extent my dear do the Welsh like to think of themselves as Britons? Precision in the description of identity is pretty important don't you think?