Escalation? U.S. Navy Fires Warning Shots At Iranian Ship .....

No it didn't and doesn't, but odds are B. Obama is already working on an 'Exit Strategy'.

 

Iranian Islamists are not reluctant to kill any innocents in the Democracies while no Democracy wants to deliberate kill innocent Iranians. The West is at a great disadvantage in this war.

 

What nonsense! Do you even believe what you write?

Iran went through 8 years of war with Iraq, who was being supplied, funded and protected by an assortment of states from both the then Warsaw Pact and NATO, with Iraq using chemical weapons against Iran. Iran was known to have the ability to respond in kind and those who wanted to provide cover for Iraq's behavior on the diplomatic stage sometimes wanted to claim that Iran was also using chemical weapons against Iraq. It is known today that those fabrications were entirely intentional measures to protect Iraq from the kind of censure it would have received for violating applicable international conventions and laws of war. Otherwise, Iran made an intentional decision not to use chemical weapons even in retaliation against Iraq because it didn't want to harm innocent Iraqis for the crimes of their dictator.

Iran has been blamed for various acts against US and western interests. Leaving aside whether the allegations have merit, lets look at what they entail? For instance, Iran is blamed for the bombing of the US marine barracks in Lebanon, which resulted in the death of several hundred US soldiers. Iran is also blamed by the US military for the deaths of around 500 US soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan. Are American soldiers "innocent" when they go to a foreign land to serve as tools of US foreign policy and imperialism? Or lets look at the group that Iran does openly support, namely Hezbollah, and its conduct viz a viz Israel and the war between Israel and Hezbollah. Who has targeted civilians and who has been going after military targets between the two? Listen, Israel intentionally even targeted the Christian community in Lebanon in that war to undermine Hezbollah's political support within Lebanon and exact a price for the war which the Israelis hoped would cost Hezbollah political capital.

How many civilians did Israel kill in Lebanon during the 2006 war? How many soldiers and Hezbollah fighters? Conversely, how many Israeli soldiers did Hezbollah kill compared to the number of Israeli civilians that were killed?

The US is so far the only country which has used nuclear weapons against another state. When the US dropped the atomic bomb on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, it wasn't going after soldiers! It was killing men, women, children, pets, and every living creature in those cities while leveling them to rubble. What has Iran ever been even accused, even by the most outlandish propagandists that write nonsense against Iran constantly, that would even compare to what the US has actually done in all these years in all these countries it has attacked, bombed and bullied?

 

In the early phases of an eventual large scale war ... remember that when the situation becomes tough, Democracies can use all the available power to defeat the enemy.

I would underline that it has been a Democracy [the American Republic] to use atom weapons for real [and on civilian targets] during a war ...

Their advantage won't last for long.

 

Thats why I say we respond back appropriately.....then put the responsibility on them if they want to go to war. Let them think about that (*)(*)(*)(*) for a change.

They haven't been worried we will do anything to them. Lets change that up and really give them something to think about.

One thing is for certain....if they won't declare war. They will have been given the mental (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)slap, and the rest of the planet will know it. No more (*)(*)(*)(*) talking from the mopes then.

 

They tried a few years ago but Obama refused support. http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2011/11/why_obama_betrayed_the_iranian_people.html

Also Iran is not 'isolated', having connections all over the world. No one seems to notice that Iran is moving into Central America.https://sputniknews.com/latam/20160908/1045095139/iran-nicaragua-canal-support.html

It is the US which seeks further isolation, hoping they can then just 'absorb', as Obama says, acceptable losses at home. Hard to see how they can do that with the southern border largely open.

 

Americans cannot win wars anymore. Just suggest a war and the media/leftists will be all over it. They even changed the Bush win in Iraq to a loss, turned in to a mass killing field, and claimed it a 'success'. They even elected Barrack Obama twice..

If Americans were serious they wouldn't consider Hillary Clinton as President for a nanosecond, but she is tied for the lead in the pools. Winning a war? It will never happen. They're more concerned about celebrities, food stamps and "Islamophobia". The right stays home and broods whole the left controls the conversation and thus the agenda. It's a Republic as long as you can keep it but now Franklin's concerns are taking sha[pe..

 

Well after the Iranians back down and get told where they are on the food chain. We can then focus on the Domestic Enemy at Home. Get those Democrats prepped for Refugee Status.

Which that War would be over quicker than anything with Iranians.

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Your right to swing your arms ends where someone's nose begins. It is that simle. Both in foreign affairs and in domestic politics. As I understand this story American ships were in international waters so Iranian millitary boat had no right to get near them.

 

I don't think this is wise to start a war over this incident, but I think it would be a justifiable war if Americans have started it over the Iranian declared desire to wipe Israel off the map.

 

It isn't a double standard. It is the foremost duty of the federal government to protect the American people from foreign powers. Foreign policy is the exclusive domain of the federal government to deal with foreign governments and agencies. The states have much more responsibility domestically.

 

No country should be running off at the mouth death to..... insert name of Country. Not on All the Worlds a Stage.

And never when their enemies can wipe them off the map.

 

More likely Iranian waters. Besides, the USA has no business being there. After all government is intrusive enough domestically and it is even worse in foreign lands.

 

Uhm, you mean we have no business honoring our written commitments to the Saud, UAE, Bahrain, and any others that have to use the Gulf?

Were not suppose to stick to any accords, commitments, and or deals we signed our name to?

I guess we can always say we lost our copies Right?

 

Territorial waters are just 22 km from the coastline. I don't think American ships have come so close. So, yes, their staying there is very unfriendly but still legal. And when did Iranian government has been friendly to the United States? It is violent even to its own innocent citizens.

 

Yes, Iranians didn't drop their declaration of devotion to destroy state of Israel even during nuclear deal negotiations. The maximum Kerry managed to drag out of them is their promise they don't use nuclear weapons to do so.

 

If there is a country looking for isolation today, it's Great Britain. With their beloved Brexit, they are becoming the sociopath misanthropes of the planet.

 

Listen....with the exception of what we cannot really call a Navy so I will cal it the Iranian Speed Boat Parade....no other nations navy or collection of boats or ships is STUPID ENOUGH get too close to a U.S. Navy Task Force or Carrier Strike Group.

If a nation is stupid enough to do this they usually end up getting blown out of the water so the solution is simple.....DON'T GET TOO CLOSE TO U.S. NAVY SHIPS!!!!

And it seems only Iran is this stupid as although the U.S. Navy offers great restraint when a bunch of tiny Iranian speed boats come way too close to U.S. Navy Ships as history has shown the Iranian's have several times come TOO CLOSE!!!.....ie.....Gotten blown out of the water.

AA

 

Oh PLEASE!!!

If you play with a Rattle Snake eventually you will get bitten!!

Solution.....Don't play with the Rattle Snake as the Rattle Snake is shaking it's tail making you aware to not get close to it but if you do.....DON'T START WHINING LATER THAT YOU WERE BITTEN!!!

Golden Rules.......

You don't tug on Superman's cape.

You don't spit into the wind.

You don't pull the mask off the ol' Lone Ranger.

And YOU DO NOT.....come too close to the worlds most powerful Navy!!!!

AA

 

Their lucky that the Israelis are tolerant.

 

Why are they building super aircraft carriers ?

 

Since the government felt it is not compelled to honor treaties made with USA Indians why should the government honor those stupid commitments with enemies like Saudi Arabia and Israel?

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Who invaded who in 1953 and imposed a fascist dictator to terrorize it?

 

Ships that enter the Persian Gulf, do so going through the Strait of Hormuz and pass through either Iranian or Omani territorial waters depending on their route. The incidents being discussed all took place within Iranian territorial waters and the legal issue is about the transit rights and the so-called "right of innocent passage", the applicability of certain conventions that neither Iran nor the US have signed, and the limitations and restrictions that can be placed on such passage under international law.

http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/ori...gc-patrol-boats-us-vessels.html#ixzz4JodHa0rv

 

There is an International Shipping Lane that exists all the way through the Persian Gulf and through the Strait of Hormuz and the Iranian naval leadership, Iranian Military and Iranian Leadership KNOWS.....any attempt by Iran to block, attack or prevent shipping through the Strait of Hormuz would result in the complete and utter destruction of all Iranian Ships, Boats, Subs, Naval and Coastal Installations by the U.S. Military within hours of such an attempt to block the Strait of Hormuz.

And since the Iranian Naval Leadership is WELL AWARE.....they would be the FIRST TO DIE.....they want no part of any such attempt.

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