Even cheating didn't help the GOP

Nobody is forcing anybody into anything. We hold elections which follow a prescribed process. If someone can't follow the prescribed process there is no outside "forcing" of any kind.

 

That is how elections work and are supposed to work. Elections have nothing to do with justice.

 

I presume you are not counting the DNC and Hillary working with and paying foreign entities to assist in Clinton's 2016 campaign, or, especially, a Democrat administration abusing government power in the most egregious and scandalous way ever in the history of the United States to aid Clinton's 2016 campaign.

 

Does Wisconsin's voting laws say one single word about putting people in danger? NEWS FLASH: Judges (are supposed to) rule on the written law, not what you or anyone else prefers.

 

Monster is really worried that without massive democrat cheating Trump will win, Monster just loves the 'corona 'cause it will help defeat Donald J Trump.

 

Oh get over yourself. This isn't about me.

I consider what the GOP did to be disgusting and reprehensible, legal or not. It was ugly. They forced people to risk their lives in order to vote. The only saving grace in this is that the conservative judge lost in spite of the GOP's blatant attempt at voter supression, and the conservative judges on both the SCOTUS and the Wisconsin supreme court showed us all that they didn't give damn about people's lives.

Consider my use of the word "cheating" to be click bait if that works for you, but instead of making this about me, look at what they tried to do to Wisconsin voters. Defend that if you can.

smh . . .

 

It is, and your need to willfully make false statements to make a point.

That is, your hyper-partisan political hatred means more to you than your intellectual honesty.

As such, there's no reason to take anything you say seriously.

 

Your whataboutism is weak ... seriously weak. Giving a convicted drunk a license to drive usually happens after an intensive process that bears no similarity with this issue.

I don't find anything about COVID-19 to be convenient, politically or otherwise. While I've had big fun calculating the numerous curves and frequency of shape changes in the intricate designs on my favorite quilt, there's only so much entertainment to be had from household geometry. One craves live music and dinner with friends, even a curmudgeonly hermit such as myself. Social distancing ... finally! something I was already good at! But it does get old.

Tell me, please, why the right is perfectly okay with a court decision that, while entirely legal, nonetheless deliberately put American lives in danger for a political purpose. I'm trying not to view the right as evil, but it gets harder every day with crap like this.

Do you really think that it was a good thing, making tens of thousands of people go out into the midst of a deadly pandemic, when a simple few days or one week delay would have resolved the issue without making anyone unsafe? If that's really okay with you, please tell me why. Thanks in advance for a civil reply.

 

Again, just for you:

This. Is. Not. About. Me.

 

Your complaint is the law, in this case, puts people at risk.
The fact is, the law does this all the time - allowing a someone convicted of a DUI to drive again is just one example.
As such, your complaint holds no water and is nothing but a matter of convenience for you.

 

See. Post. #. 57.

 

And still you make no sense whatsoever.

Mail in ballots don't get shipped to warehouses or abandoned buildings. They are preaddressed yo registered voters. Every state has rules on how they handle them, outgoing and incoming.

Cite one onstance of major voter fraud via mail in ballots, aside from the GOP's shenanigans in North Carolina in 2018. Go ahead, look it up. You'll find nothing.

 

Even at the cost of lives?

I asked another user here this same question: can you please explain to me why the right is just fine with a decision, legal or not, that blatantly endangers Ametican lives over a mere technicality? I seriously want to know. Is empathy really that lacking on the right?

How would it have hurt anyone involved if the request for a few extra days for mail in ballots had been granted?

I just do not understand how anyone could be okay with this decision, legal or not. We will never know how many of those Wisconsin voters became ill due to this heartless decision, or worse, how many died just to cast a vote. How can anyone with a full set of human emotions be okay with that, all for a political cause? A failed cause, at that. It disgusts me.

 

You got your answer - and you know said answer is sound.

You -do- understand because you have no issue whatsoever with the law putting people in danger, unless doing do furthers your political agenda.
Why the faux confusion?
Oh... you want to make a political point.

 

Your post is a fairly classic type of hysteria and emotionalism over rights, law, and justice. Since the election actually took place, what is the body count?

 

One either subscribes and believes in the rule of law, or in the rule of man -- one or the other, not both nor half and half.

 

Horse pucky.

 

RodB said: ↑
I presume you are not counting the DNC and Hillary working with and paying foreign entities to assist in Clinton's 2016 campaign, or, especially, a Democrat administration abusing government power in the most egregious and scandalous way ever in the history of the United States to aid Clinton's 2016 campaign.

Oh, no. It was worse than that.

 

Who ships them to where and under what controls? Oh and the 'Republican caught in North Carolina had been a Democrat operative for years. Apparently it only matters when Republicans cheat.

 

I was brought up different. I was brought up to understand that many people gave their life so we could vote for who governs us. It would have been easy to give up that right and just let the King of England... or some other king "dictate" the law. My mom came from a country where they had to fight in a Civil War to obtain the right to vote against a dictatorial government. She lost an uncle in that civil war. Her father and older brother were imprisoned for a long time by the Dictatorship. In the end, democracy prevailed. So she made great sacrifices to go back to her country every four years to vote. And it was very expensive. But she taught us that it was a duty to exercise the right that so many, including her uncle, had given their life to preserve. And she pointed out the parallels with this country. Because here too many have given up their lives to preserve that right. This is why voting is, not just a right, but it's more than that. It's a duty!

I guess it's different when you just take things for granted. Nothing like living the easy life, where everything is just.... "given" to you for free.

 

Horse pucky.

Is it partisan to want to preserve the lives of my fellow Americans? If so, guilty as charged. Is political hatred what I'm expressing, or is that just projection on your part? I'm guessing the latter.

If it makes you feel better about yourself to insult me, blast away, but that doesn't change the facts: the GOP in Wisconsin, and the conservative justices on their supreme court and our SCOTUS, acted in a callous, reckless manner in forcing people out into public during a pandemic, at the risk of lives.

This. Is. Not. About. Me. It isn't about you either, sweetie.

 

How often do you get nosebleeds, way up there on that high horse? Probably way more than I get from living at 6,300 feet above sea level. Just wondering.

This is not a normal circumstance. No one should have to explain that to anyone here. Being out in public during this pandemic is risky. You could get sick, even die, and that's a fact. One conservative judge is not worth the loss of even one life from among the voters who were forced out into the proximity of this virus.

Believe it or not, I place a lot of the blame on Tony Evers, the Democratic governor of Wisconsin, for waiting until the last minute to request postponement.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/...-minute-plea-to-delay-tuesday-election-163441

Incompetence in a time of pandemic is not, sadly, reserved to the Trump administration alone.

But for the GOP to push against issuing mail in ballots to all voters in the first place, then to go to the courts in order to keep many citizens from being able to vote without risking their lives, is just plain disgusting. They should be ashamed of themselves. I can't properly express in words how glad I am that their candidate lost in spite of their efforts. Now they can clearly be seen as the sociopathic "win at any cost, even lives" jerkwads that they've always been, but they don't even have the satisfaction of an electoral win. Maybe there is such a thing as karma.

 

Sound? Can't you (virtually) hear yourself? What the EFF is sound about forcing voters to risk life and health?

I'm not making a political point (see #72). I'm trying to make a f@#king human point. Do you really not understand the difference? How morally bankrupt has American society become when people can actually argue that a technicality on timing trumps (pun intended) human life?I just don't get the heartlessness I'm seeing on this thread, all coming from the right. It's stunning.

 

We'll probably never know the answer to that, and I wish we could, because I would bet my mortgage that there will be a body count as a result of this court decision.

As for hysteria: is it still paranoia if they really are out to get ya?

I'd rather be seen as a "chicken little" when the dust settles on this disaster than to be among those who dismissed the dangers and have blood on their hands as a result. Go ahead and denigrate me for being too emotional, but that's better than sociopathic, IMO.

 

I refer you back to #72.