Evolution is a religion 6.0

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  1. DBM aka FDS

    DBM aka FDS Well-Known Member

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    And that is your belief...
     
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    DBM aka FDS Well-Known Member

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    So far...

    NOBODY has talked about EVOLUTION being a religion...

    NOBODY!!!!
     
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    Spooky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That's funny, ok you tell us what is allowed to discuss then.

    Sounds like you don't want any discussion, only the things you want to hear.

    Time to bail on this thread then.
     
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    DBM aka FDS Well-Known Member

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    Going to bed, please look things up... please...
     
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    DBM aka FDS Well-Known Member

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    Then bail...

    Done this over five times... Others will discuss this. If you don't, that is on you...
     
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    DBM aka FDS Well-Known Member

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    Just look things up...

    If you believe in evolution, which (because there is more than one) evolutionary crap do you believe in?
     
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    Faith is based on no evidence.

    Evolution is based on evidence.

    Now your main case is the evidence is flawed however its not just fossil evidence its backed up by DNA studies and in the case of human extensive migratory evidence tracing humans from Africa to the rest of the world and this is also sound including the move from older ancestors and near human ancestors to our species. Now we don't need to know all the why and wherefores we need to only show the theory of evolution is fundamentally sound and its been properly vetted by men and women of science to be currently the unchallenged theory of how biological life developed on the planet. Its only going to be more refined and gaps filled in as we increase our understanding of how this works currently though nothing seriously opposes it.
     
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    ...and this should be the response of every reasonable person when faced with abject ignorance.
     
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    William Rea Well-Known Member

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    Somebody been done gone to the library I think...
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    Looks like each person must have thousands of religions from your definition, the concept of a decent cup of tea has now been elevated to the status of religion! With such a broad and vague definition of religion it is meaningless.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You ignored this post the first time ... or missed it. Response to your post 19.

     
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    vanityofvanitys Well-Known Member

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    All of a sudden your views on evolution are of little consequence to me. Your inane statement on religion is of far greater exposure. Nor am I all that interested in what surprise package you are going to spring on those who may still be left in the next day or two. That being, if matter did not evolve via natural processes and God did not do it or create us, what are we missing?
     
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    You of course know this is a lie.
     
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    And you know this is a lie as well.
     
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    Which shows evolution, by definition, is not a religion.
     
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    Because as you know, it isn’t.
     
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    I wouldn't say "I believe in evolution" because I don' think "believe" (by the definition your thinking of) is correct and because I don't see evolution as a singular thing to either entirely accept or entirely reject.

    Like any scientific field that isn't in my area of expertise, I have to rely on the work and conclusions of others. How much credence I give those conclusions will depend on how much I trust the individuals and how much raw logical sense their evidence, analysis and conclusions make to me. There are plenty of aspects of evolutionary theory which I do accept on that basis and other aspects I'm less certain about. There will be a vast range that I know pretty much nothing about. Luckily, this is a largely academic discussion since it doesn't have any impact on my day-to-day life what the actual answer is.

    None of this has anything to do with evolution being a religion. :)
     
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    Yes, including you. :)
     
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    Because there is nothing to discuss.

    No one talks about Ants creating fusion powered interstellar spacecraft either.
     
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    Possibly because you have failed in the basics of debate, first we need to understand what you mean by religion and then what you understand as evolution. Then we need to understand what you mean by faith, belief, proof and evidence. Then it will be possible to have a reasonable debate. At the moment all you have presented are some snide comments, a few unusual definitions of religion no explanation of what you mean by evolution and claims that you are capable of destroying a theory that has withstood peer review for 150 years.
     
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    You can pick up a dictionary if you wish and it will point you in the right direction. No, belief alone is not religion. You've already been provided with counterexamples that you have failed to refute.

    You are the only one who has said that, and the fact that you think this is what evolution says is evidence that you are completely unfamiliar with evolution, as I predicted in my previous post. If you'd actually like to consider the evidence for evolution, look at genetics. There are only two possibilities: we are descended from a common ancestor or a divine being is deliberately altering all of the evidence to deceive us by pointing all evidence to this being the case. Your position is the equivalent of claiming that the devil created dinosaur bones in order to fool us into believing they existed.
     
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    You have gotten ahead of yourself here. If you want a discussion, relax.

    I do not understand what you mean by the term "religion". Please define it. Until we each understand what that word means, there is no point in going further.

    Similarly, I do not understand you mean by the term "Evolution". I also don't understand why you have written it as a proper noun. Please define the word, and explain why you think it is a proper noun. Until we each understand what that word means, there is no point in going further.
     
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    First, since we are redefining terms then I can redefine Christianity has a mental disorder. Secondly, evolution is the ONLY theory that explains the diversity of life on Earth, Creationism/ID does not even rate as a hypothesis.
     
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    DBM aka FDS Well-Known Member

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    It has nothing to do with that...

    Please, I want to have an intelligent conversation with those who believe in EVOLUTION
    Please explain... that was quite a vague statement. Because, I wouldn't be talking about EVOLUTION if I did not know about DNA
     

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