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Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Hell Raiser, Mar 14, 2022.

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  1. ToughTalk

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    - the cost of gas at the pump versus cost of a barrel of oil is skewed, taking advantage of current global situation. Last time oil was this much per barrel gas was not this expensive. We are getting ****ed.
     
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    Jack Hays Well-Known Member Donor

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    Nope. It's not that simple, or simplistic.
    Why are Gasoline Prices Rising?
    2022 › 03 › 08 › why-are-gasoline-prices-rising
    Rising Gas Prices Have Drivers Asking, ‘Is This for Real?’ The average price of a gallon of gasoline is up ... consternation that people had been staying home but gasoline prices had risen anyway. In response, the senator
     
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  3. Bowerbird

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    Bowerbird, Apr 13, 2022
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    Actually, no, we're getting ****ed by Biden. Forcing a reduction in our production (and then begging the likes of Venezuela, et al. to help us is despicable.
     
    Bullseye, Apr 13, 2022
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    Awww! Sweet! A wattsupmybutt conspiracy theory - from a fossil fuel funded astroturf site no lesss
    Try a site that knows a little about economics
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/mikepa...on-behind-surging-gas-prices/?sh=15e3b6b026de
     
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    Ummm can you link me to where he “forced reduction”
     
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    Jack Hays, Apr 13, 2022
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    Jack Hays, Apr 13, 2022
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    Where's this forced reduction law, EO, request?

    Anything at all to back that claim up?
     
    dairyair, Apr 13, 2022
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    How does it do that?
     
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    The point is now or in the very near future

    What is the biggest downside to renewables? They do not operate at the same output 24/7. Sooo- grid scale batteries? There are issues with that but little old Aus invented a grid scale battery the only problem was it relied on an expensive mineral called Vanadium. Enter QLD Aus. Two new Vanadium mines are going into operation. These mines will not just be making grid scale batteries for Australia (there are plans to replace a couple of coal fired power plants with battery installations) but basically anywhere in the world. And I do mean anywhere.

    We are also putting in MASSIVE PV farms in the NT and QLD and WA - basically across the dry tropics which at the moment is scarcely populated. These will be powering a big electrical cable to Singapore but also “green Hydrogen/ammonium” for export the same way we currently export LNG

    Think about third world countries with scattered communities who cannot have power because it costs to hook them to a grid. If we can get power to them that is off grid you start to also remove all those burning fires that also add CO2
     
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    Don’t bet on it

    People are already doing the math - especially when the majority of rides are to and from work
     
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    I've already read up on why they are not increasing supply. It's because they don't want to see another 20 dollar a barrel oil oil surplus because of another stupid pandemic lockdown. I get it.

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    And I am fully aware that as the article states EV's are not the solution for poor people unless the price drastically decreases. I'm not poor people. And I refuse to get ****ed at the pump at the whims of some share holder corporate greed or personal vendetta against Brandon for cancelling the pipeline.

    You can pay for that. I'm out.

    :)
     
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    Not if the plants are running on renewables
     
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    Growth under Trump.
     
    Jack Hays, Apr 13, 2022
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    Jack Hays Well-Known Member Donor

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    Sorry, but your post is fantasy.
     
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    You been in a cave for the last year and a half?
     
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    Sure, and will the plants run at night? :lol:
     
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    So why not recycle them into grid storage? That has been floated because the grid storage does not require the high end charge that a car does it means we can get waaay more years out of the batteries. We could even “recycle” to third world countries for them to use in small communities as support for renewables there
     
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    Vanadium redox flow batteries

    or

    Green hydrogen/ammonium
     
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    Nope we just haven’t been listening to QANON
     
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    The only thing that grew under Trump was the size of his arse
     
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  25. ToughTalk

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    https://www.forbes.com/sites/rrapie...lding-back-us-oil-production/?sh=5d16fd0e6b6f
    I haven't filled up my gas car in 3 weeks counting...I'm gonna just save it for times I need to go long distances. I'm pretty sure I'm not living a fantasy right now fella. I haven't looked at a gas pump since I bought this car.

    And did I mention the thing is ****ing fast off the line? It has instant torque. No transmission. It's just instant power. But like I said, I'm totally ok with you getting ****ed at the gas pump every time you need to fill. I give you permission.
     
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