Father and son charged with murder of Georgia jogger.

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  1. DaveBN

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    I wish the news would put the video on and run it in slow motion, stopping and explaining at certain points. To watch the video in normal speed leaves a lot to be explained. When I was a kid it seems to me we would first talk and be courteous with someone whom we might suspect of doing something bad but today the norm seems to be confrontation right off.
     
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    My apologies. Thanks for the clarification. I agree with your original point. Even if he had burglarized a home it would not justify his killing.
     
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    Agreed. He could have talked to him or barring that recorded his actions, everyone has a camera these days, and reported anything he found suspicious to the police.

    I believe he made a decision based on race.
     
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    No, without the video it was the word of 3 people vs evidence. That is how it would always go down in a world where you are presumed innocent until proven guilty under the law. These jackasses didn't follow the law and the video exposed it for all to see. Also, there needed to be a prosecutor not associated with the defendants to proceed with drawing charges. If the DA purposely over charged them, and they get off like Zimmerman or Casey Anthony, that would be a problem. If he under charged them, then the bias would be a problem. There had been no grand jury's in the state because of the lock down. They charged them with murder. Throwing out buzz words like "white privilege" sours your case for justice.
     
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    Actually, the "string of burglaries" was a grand total of ONE since the beginning of January. And for there not being any since, you know the state was locked down right?
     
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    Once again we see that who kills a black person is a far more important matter than a black person being killed.
     
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    Khaki SHORTS. You've never seen shorts the color of khaki before? They weren't described as cargo shorts, just the color.
     
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    I can agree with that. Black and minority lives go undervalued. That includes the culture within those minority groups.

    We’d all do better to place a bit more value on the lives of all people.
     
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    This is not a cut and dried case. The Jogger had been recorded breaking into houses. He was known in the neighborhood because he was seen helping his father do landscaping. There were two 911 calls about this individual. The first said he was looking into a house that was being remodeled. When Arbery saw the caller, he ran off. The second caller was Gregory McMichael stating that the Arbery was passing his house. He then followed the jogger. He was attempting to affect a citizen arrest. This is allowable under GA law. Further the father was a retired police officer. When they attempted to lawfully detain Arbery, he became combative. Under GA law, they had the right to shoot Arbery. This is what the original prosecutor based his decision on the applicable GA statutes. But the GBI has taken over the case, and we will have to see how it plays out in the courts. If it gets that far.
     
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    Wrong. In order to perform a citizens arrest he would have had to observe a crime in progress. He acted based on suspicion, and in my opinion race, which is not protected in the state of Georgia. His actions were not in line with the law.
     
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    No, Greg claimed he suspected the jogger matched a description of someone on a home camera breaking in to a SINGLE house.
    So if he (I think you mean Aubrey) was known in the neighborhood, and was a suspect of breaking into a home, why hadn't the cops already questioned him?
    Yes, one from someone who saw him looking at a house under construction, which wasn't a crime. The other from Greg who didn't see Aubrey go in the construction site but said he "recognized him from the home video".
    Under construction. Not sure where you get "remodeled" from.
    Never seen or read about Aubrey seeing the caller.
    Citizens arrest is allowable ONLY IF you have first hand knowledge of the crime committed. Greg had no such knowledge, therefore had no right to make the arrest.
    And should have stayed retired. If you think "believe all cops", then I have news for you, they aren't all good and righteous.
    The law wasn't on their side as stated before. The FIRST time they tried, Aubrey tried to run away, that's not combative.
    Not in the slightest. Aubrey wasn't threatening them with a gun. Aubrey was not the aggressor. They put themselves in that situation where Aubrey felt threatened and Aubrey had the right to defend himself.
    Hence why the mother wanted him recused. The grand jury that was commissioned by the 3rd prosecutor decided they should be charged with murder. The GBI is to help gather evidence and assist the 3rd DA office.
     
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    So, these two will get their day in court. Then what? I saw a quote from Lebron last night that underlines the idiocy of the left here. Continuing to stir the racism pot while entirely ignoring the vast majority of black men dead is a function of other black men killing them. Or, in the case of the Security guard in MI, a black family. Those perps are still on the lamb, no national news constantly assaulting the national airwave with concern that there are two dangerous men out there who hunted down a black man in public. I suppose it's more a comment about the priorities of the left these days, always attempting to insert those volatile wedge issues and demand that we fear. It certainly worked on Lebron...
     
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    Yes; and may they rot in hell -- or perhaps NYC -- depending on the results of their eventual court trial.
     
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    Arbery was caught of camera robbing houses. He was recently seen running from a house that he was casing for another robbery. That constitutes a crime in progress. Your personal opinions aside, the actions of this father and son were justifiable under GA law.
     
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    Law enforcement weren't doing their job.
    3 people is all they had interviewed? After a shooting?
     
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    It is the south.
    It was a black person and white people.

    No matter what the RW side says, racism is a big issue in the country yet.
    It lied dormant for a few decades, but a black skin president opened the bottle back up.
     
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    In cases like this, most definitely.

    White ppl shoot black jogger. The bigger issue was 2 months and no arrests. Because of white people shoot black jogger.
     
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    The black dude was jogging. That is a crime in Ga?
    Citizen arrest for jogging?

    Recorded? Who made the ID? Were they correct or wrong in ID?
     
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    I get it now.
    The Ga law is the white peoples way out of murder. Shoot a black person running because they only run after committing a crime.

    Did they find stolen property on him?
    Casing a possible future robbery? Prove that.
     
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    It's a man bites dog story.

    The media doesn't care about blacks killed by blacks.

    The shooter is far more important than the victim.
     
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    Can you post a link to the videos of Arbery "caught on camera robbing houses"?
     
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    You missed it.

    The bigger story. 2 white men shoot a black man.
    No arrests for 2 months.

    That is the story.
     

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