Fearing Antifa ‘Mayhem,’ Berkeley Mayor Wants ‘Free Speech Week’ Canceled for UC Conservatives

You can't legislate how people will react. You can give them freedom of speech, but you can't guarantee that people won't react to that kind of speech in a hostile manner. You can give them a police escort. But that isn't going to guarantee their safety. Therefore, at their own risk.

 

Uh yes you can legislate such thing that is why we have laws such as assault and or battery.

Nop one has the right to assault another based on the fact that they have a different opinion and no one should ever defend such loathesome behavior.

Yes ultimately everyone is responsible for their own safety so every time you venture from a reinforced heavily defended bunker for ANY reason you do s at your own risk. We live in a civilized society however where people have a reasonable expectation to not be attacked.

Unless the leftist regressives get their way

 

And people commit battery everyday. So, no, you can't legislate how people will react. You can use laws to guide peoples actions, but that's all.

Frankly, people who push hate are going to get in trouble, and when they do, it's on them. Like it or not, laws or not.

 

Great guess, I would have never come to that conclusion reading a right wing site. lol.

 

Yes and antifa pushed it and it is on them for causing someone to run people over.

 

Group of nazis march along shouting racist horrible things armed to the teeth. Counter protestors show up to show the nazis and the local community that we will not take this lying down. Fights start, people get killed. Nazis started it, counter protestors are going to finish it just like the crybaby nazi just found out. Now, some might take this as an opportunity to raise hell and break stuff, these people are usually young men who are basically morons. They do not represent the counter protestors. The nazis on the other hand exude violence by their very presence especially when they are armed to the teeth. The solution is simple. Stop letting nazis exercise their free speech. ACLU be damned, we control speech all the time, we should not be letting nazis have the right to spread their hate.

 

Nonsense. You're not thinking straight.

 

First of all there is zero evidence that the nazis started it. However there is good circumstantial evidence that the counter protesters led by antifa DID start it.

No one exudes violence as that is simply a subjective opinion.

Apparently you fail to grasp that you simply become as bad as any nazi when you advocate denying them their freedom of speech.

We do not control free speech all the time we do so very little and within clear narrow legal standards.

When we stop doing that and selectively allow freedom of speech we have surrendered to the likes of nazis.

It applies to all or none.

 

That is true as i was clearly applying YOUR logic

 

No it isn't and no you weren't.

You march around spewing hate, you're going to get a reaction. That's human nature, and that's a good thing. To then say that the haters reaction of killing one, injuring several, and shooting at another, is understandable because people reacted to their hate, is laughable.

 

Yes it is and yes I was.

Your logic is that if you venture out to speak hatred then you might be attacked because people may react.

The antifa counter protesters were just as much and consistently DO preach hate as any nazi. They take the same risks and your logic applies exactly the same to the murdered girl as to anyone assaulted by antifa.

What is laughable is how obviously hypocritical you are and live in complete idiotic denial

 

Use your brain. The lady who was killed was a civil rights protester, not Antifa. Most of those injured, if not all, had nothing to do with Antifa. You're just using Antifa as an excuse. It's pathetic.

 

Prove it.

She was not a civil rights protester as there was no civil rights issue at hand to protest.

Antifa was in fact leading the way in the counter protesters that is simple fact and they do preach and spew vile hatred. On the other hand her murderer was not known to be anything but a white nationalist which is not a nazi.

No matter how much you try to squirm out of it you are applying a double standard

 

Ha ha, everybody knows she wasn't Antifa. Thank you for just proving your need to confuse the issue to protect your nonsense.

 

You claim you don't defend but you defend, you claim you don't write for me but you just did again. You have no evidence at all to show I have any disdain for the 1st because I've never expressed an opinion. You made that up and act like it's true, and now you admit to judging me on it.

How nazi is that?

 

The argument can be made that she was using her civil right to free speech, to stand against those using theirs, who also feel the need to trample other's civil rights.... Like pretty much the entire Bill of Rights.

 

No they do not actually.

What you just admitted is that you have proof of.............nothing and yes the same idiotic logic you applied to nazis applies to others who were there.

 

You are lying and that is fact I have not defended them and i dare you to quote one post where I did.

If you make another post without such a quote it proves you are a liar.

I did not write for you I judged you accurately.

 

Yes it can which is why I never made such an argument. Someone else did and refuses to recognize the double standard.

 

Gotcha.

 

Please, get serious, become informed.

 

The KKK, and The White Nationalist, are indeed a civil rights issue. They threaten the Civil Rights of Jews, Gays, Blacks, etc., etc.

 

I am.

you are not hence your evasion and dodging

 

They threaten no one. There are not enough of them and they are a laughing stock

 

If one is around them, willingly or not, I'm sure many ARE threatened by them.