Fearing Antifa ‘Mayhem,’ Berkeley Mayor Wants ‘Free Speech Week’ Canceled for UC Conservatives

Nothing here changes the fact that your refusal to criticize is proof of approval.

 

the real ensuing violence

 

Yup, terrorist groups like COINTELPRO, KKK, white supremacists, far right AM talk radio, Fox, schools like Liberty {sic} and Bob Jones U, and right wing forums have done a marvelous job of ending free speech. Naturally, there is no objection from the far right.

 

Yes... where antifa terrorists tried do suppress free speech with violence.
You CHOOSE to react to free speech with violence - no one forces you to.
Thus, the violence is on you.

 

Don't ever represent yourself in court.

 

I'm sorry you do not like the fact your refusal to criticize is proof of approval - but a fact it remains.

 

No one can grant anyone freedom of speech, it's an unalienable right. In the US, the Constitution (specifically the First Amendment) protects that right. Just a crucial point of clarification.

 

The unassailable Trumpian wall of abject denial.

Quite amazing.

 

I'll tell you what, you ask the police to let the driver of the car, and the shooter, go, and put an Antifa in jail in their place. See how that goes for you.

 

quoting myself here, I'd like to see forum right wingers object to all this suppression of free speech by their fellow right wingers

 

I'm sorry you do not like the fact your refusal to criticize is proof of approval - but a fact it remains.

 

Did you notice you did not meaningfully address what I said?
I did.

 

The Supreme Court disagrees with you. Government cannot ban some political parties and allow others the right to assemble and speak because of a 'history of violence' They are allowed to provide extra security and some extra precautions, however. If you want to see a suicide pact, get government in the business of deciding which political parties or ideas are just to dangerous to allow in a protest march.

 

Oh yes I did.

 

Nope. Passed right over it. Didn't address a thing.
YOU choose to initiate violence in reaction to what someone says, no one forces you to.

 

The violence is only on those who commit it, no matter the side. If someone down the road swings at a white nationalist terrorist, and you run another protester over with your car, that's on you. If you pull a weapon, and shoot into a crowd because you don't like what someone did, that's on you. If you march into a town and start chanting about Jews, and blacks, and spewing other kinds of hate speech, the whole event is on you. You started the sh*t. Don't start sh*t and hide behind free speech.

 

Ah.
So, people exercising their right to free speech are -not- responsible for the violence, the people who tried to suppress the exercise of same, are.
Thank you

Oh, and just when you were doing so, well, you contradict yourself.

 

No, actually people who start sh*t, are responsible for the sh*t they start. And you know it.

 

You have a sign that says "I hate Jews!"
I come over to you and punch you because of it.
If "The violence is only on those who commit it, no matter the side", who started, and is therefore responsible for, the violence?

 

No-brainer.

You did.

 

The painfully obvious response.

 

I don't have a sign that says "I hate Jews!".

However, if a poorly hung, lizard brain, Trumpie, separatist, anti-Mexican, low IQed, rednecked, gun toting, alt-right, bigoted, draft-dogging supporter, and his midget chimpanzee friends, walked around my town chanting "n****** suck"? I'd say if he got punched it was on him.

Just like if I, with my good looks, and charm, came into your town carrying a sign saying "make love, not war", all the ladies who followed me would be on me.

 

You and I both you know you dodged the question.
Both of us know why.
I accept your concession.

 

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Has your right to free speech ended? What was it you wanted to say?