Fearing Antifa ‘Mayhem,’ Berkeley Mayor Wants ‘Free Speech Week’ Canceled for UC Conservatives

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  1. Soupnazi

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    So if you actively seek them out to confront who is doing the threatening?
     
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    You did defend them. I wrote about the defence of their already existing free speech rights, you denied defending them then defended their free speech rights.

    You've barfed up a whole bunch of inane garbage and ascribed it to me.

    That's what goes on in your head and which you act on and assume is a valid judgement against another.

    What a terrible way to be.
     
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    They present a civil rights issue. Obviously. The FBI keeps an eye on them. Local police keep an eye on them. Jewish groups keep an eye on them. And the young lady who was run over was a civil rights protester. It's that simple. You need to educate yourself, or just admit you're disingenuous.
     
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    Well, yeah, one would be crazier than I am, to search out that which they were threatened by.

    That being said though, principles are principles.

    Some are worth facing threats/your fears.
     
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    They do not present a civil rights issue. Th FBI keeps an eye on lot's of people. She was no civil rights protester whatever else she may or may not have been as there were no civil rights issue to protest.

    It is that simple and you are dishonest and proven wrong
     
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    Yet seeking sch a confrontation makes one the actual threat in many cases.
     
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    I agree it's a hazy area indeed.
     
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    This is hysterical. The KKK doesn't represent a civil rights concern? Ha ha.

    See ya.
     
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    They did at one time.

    No longer.
     
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    Oldest neo-Nazi website loses domain name
    Stormfront, the oldest neo-Nazi forum on the internet, has lost its domain name in the wake of the white supremacist rally in Charlottesville, which resulted in the death of Heather Heyer and two law enforcement officers. The site was founded in 1995 by former Klan leader Don Black.


    and now their emails are known of its members

    a lot of pants crapping tonight across flyover country
     
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    It is ridiculous to discuss the peace-loving traits of Nazis and the Klan OR these "antifas", they are all 'provocateurs', they seek to cause a riot, they share with terrorists the theory a violent provocation will cause an excessive response which may bring about political change. One should realize the basics here.
     
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    Nonsense... it makes them a strong democracy which is able to defend it against the enemies who want to destroy it and miss-using constitutional rights to do so!
     
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    No it does not it makes them hypocritical backwards nations.

    A handful of individuals denying the holocaust is not a threat to any nation or democracy. It is simply paying lip service to freedom and human rights. Such nations do not trust their own people and merely rule their people in a soft manner.
     
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    Human rights?

    Paragraph 1 of our German constitution after the Second World War, born from the experience with the Nazis and their crimes:

    Human dignity is inviolable!

    Whoever denies the Holocaust attacks the dignity of the millions of victims and their survivors ... and thus makes a constitutional act = criminal offense!

    End of discussion!

    And THAT is just right, because these mental arsonists are just as dangerous as those who kill people from races!

    Who is more dangerous? The bastard, who calls for violence and criminal offenses ... or the bastard who buys the mental garbage as truth and then carries it out?
     
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    That constitution and it's declaration of human rights is worthless and meaningless when the same government selectively limits freedom of speech which is proof Germany and many other such nations are backwards and inferior nations.

    Who ever denies the holocaust is expressing an opinion. Someone's dignigty does not out weigh human rights except in hypocritical idiotic nations.

    You do not call the end of the discussion and you are wrong. There is no such thing as mental arson and expressing such ideas is NOT dangerous
     
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    Wrong ... this is not backwards, this clever and the only way to prevent miss-use of rights!
    Expressing an opinion has its limits when it becomes an insult and attack on the dignity of others! And here we have the next difference to the USA, because insulting is also a criminal act here!

    Sorry, I rate our constitution and the law system as by far superior to the US one, which is over aged and not up to date to meet threats against the US constitution!
     
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    There are no such threats against the US constitution except by those wishing to limit free speech of others.

    It is not the only to prevent misuse of rights. People have no right to intact dignity or protection from insults. Your feelings or anyone;s feelings do not matter. Selective limitations on rights is backwards draconian and barbaric. Your nation and constitution are all hypocrites with no respect for freedom.
     
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    We have a full respect for freedom ... but maybe we have an experience in history which you are lacking in the USA, eh?
     
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    No you do not have a full respect for freedom you are in fact only paying shallow lip service to it
     
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    Your view of things, mine is the opposite!

    But how did the famous French Voltaire once say to the Prussian king, Friedirch, The Great, and last one agreed?

    I do not agree with her, but I will defend her right to have a different opinion with my life!

    Freedom of expression is an elementary element, but if the other opinion and the right to have it are abused, oppress the opinion of another, or the goal is to completely destroy this right, then there is a limit ...

    But as I said, we have learned from our own history and are satisfied with the results ...
     
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    Which is noithing more than babbling nonsense for being hypocrites
     
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    Like with Trump and the white supremacists, your refusal to criticize is proof of approval.
     
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    It doesn't matter how much you don't like what the other guys says - if you swing the bat, the ensuing violence is on you.
     
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    The exercise of free speech does not, by definition, start violence.
    And thus, we see how liberals would handle free speech, if not for the Constitution.
     
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    I refuse to answer your demands, which is distinct from whether I'm critical or not, but thanks for showing your nazi skirt by finding me guilty of this alt crime which you've concocted.
     

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