Feds to sue Texas to try and stop election integrity

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  1. dujac

    dujac Well-Known Member

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    what a joke, she tried for years to get the id and finally got a lawyer

    that's way beyond what should be necessary
     
  2. bomac

    bomac New Member Past Donor

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    Thread is about Texas. Stay on topic.
     
  3. conhog

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    That is HILARIOUS coming from you given that you try to change EVERY thread about Voter ID into one about other aspects of voting that you claim are meant to suppress votes.

    Voter ID means showing a state picture ID to vote , nothing more. It certainly has nothing to do with the number of polling places, their hours, or any of the other junk you routinely try to interject into the topic.
     
  4. bomac

    bomac New Member Past Donor

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    You really are out in Never, Never Land. You copy Dujac's link, never look at it and have no idea what the link was about.

    Rant, rant, rant.
     
  5. BestViewedWithCable

    BestViewedWithCable Well-Known Member

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    wtf

    Dujac made claims about a Pennsylvania citizen, not a Texas citizen. Go yell at him.
     
  6. bomac

    bomac New Member Past Donor

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    Didn't say any of that but you do need to rant. Go for it and ignore what others are saying. Your one way conversations must mean something to you.
     
  7. BestViewedWithCable

    BestViewedWithCable Well-Known Member

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    dujac made claims about this woman, and he never bothered to provide a source

    Viviette Applewhite, 93, Philadelphia Ms. Applewhite is an African-American woman born in 1919 in Philadelphia. Ms. Applewhite worked as a welder during World War II in the Sun Shipyard in Chester, Pennsylvania. Ms. Applewhite married and raised a daughter who for decades worked for various federal, Pennsylvania, and municipal government agencies. Now a widow, Ms. Applewhite has lived in Philadelphia for more than twenty years and enjoys five grandchildren, nine great grandchildren, and four great-great grandchildren. She has voted in nearly every election since at least 1960. Ms. Applewhite marched to support civil rights for African-Americans with Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. in Macon, Georgia, and traveled on several occasions to hear him preach in Atlanta's Ebenezer Baptist Church. Ms. Applewhite does not have and has been unable to obtain photo identification required by Pennsylvania's voter photo ID law and thus after voting at nearly every election for more than 50 years will be unable to cast a ballot this November.

    You really wanna know how I know dujac is a liar?

    Cause Mrs Applewhite doesnt have to do a damn thing yet....


    Judge delays Pennsylvania Voter ID law again

    By Aaron Blake, Published: August 16 at 4:45 pmE-mail the writer

    A Pennsylvania judge ruled Friday that the state cannot enforce its Voter ID law during the 2013 election, citing an ongoing legal battle.
     
  8. bomac

    bomac New Member Past Donor

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    Dujac, why are you wasting your time with BVWC and Conhog? They talk to each other and ignore the facts.
     
  9. conhog

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    Bomac when you say that requiring ID that proves who you are is harder on blacks than whites you ARE saying that you believe blacks are incapable of meeting the same standards as whites. You may not want to admit it, but that is EXACTLY what you are saying.

    I doubt there are many people on this board who haven't lost their ID at one time or another, and it IS a pain in the ass to replace it, I mean you need to prove who you are to get ID that proves who you are. That IS by it's very nature tough to do. after all we don't want to just take peoples' words for it do we, we have enough problems with identity theft as it is.

    The difference is I don't think blacks need any special help and that they can go through the same process as whites, no matter how much of a PITA it is, while you on the other hand thin they are inferior and can't manage unless we make it easier for them.

    And we know this is the case because you say NOTHING about poor white people who may be old and not have picture ID you only focus on the blacks because you believe the whites are capable and the blacks are not.

    Pitiful
     
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    Not to mention the fact that she has an ID.....

    Applewhite, 93, had trouble meeting the state’s documentation requirements to get a photo ID. For one thing, she did not have a Social Security card after it was stolen with her purse some years ago, she has said. Plus, she was adopted early in life, making the name on her birth certificate different from that on her other paperwork, and she did not have a record of the adoption.

    Applewhite received her identification card after riding two public-transit buses to a Department of Transportation licensing office and presenting a clerk with her Medicare card from the 1990s, a state document listing her name and Social Security number in her own handwriting, and proof of her Philadelphia address.....



    http://thegrio.com/2012/08/17/vivie...ff-in-pa-voter-id-case-gets-card-amid-appeal/
     
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    BestViewedWithCable Well-Known Member

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    Thank you very much for your effort and sources.
     
  12. dujac

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    post #234 on page 24 shows that you're lying


    as i've said countless times before

    she didn't get the id after years of trying at the dmv

    after she got a lawyer and filed suit, then she was given an id

    this is the sort of denial and abridgement of voting rights the constitution is for
     
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    BestViewedWithCable Well-Known Member

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    This thread is about Texas, please stay on topic.....
     
  14. conhog

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    So to whit, she spent one afternoon and used paperwork she already had and obtained her ID. What is the problem here?
     
  15. dujac

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    just admit you lied


    the lie you just posted is a problem
     
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    BestViewedWithCable Well-Known Member

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    Just admit you got no case, and youre just typing (*)(*)(*)(*) cause you got no friends.
     
  17. dujac

    dujac Well-Known Member

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    oh look, more lies and stupid lies at that
     
  18. conhog

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    How does one ignore such obvious facts? That's just willing stupidity. It's beyond obvious that she took paperwork she alrady had on had, spent one afternoon including travel time and received her ID.

    I don't see the issue with requiring blacks to meet the same standards as whites when proving who they are.
     
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    Like the FACT that Applewhite got her ID in ONE DAY, once she provided her REAL NAME,and correct documents?

    Like those "facts"?
     
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    djlunacee New Member

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    She has an ID, she can vote. End of story.
     
  21. dujac

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    the point is that she was denied the id for years and had to get a lawyer to force the dmv to give her the id
     
  22. conhog

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    Bomac only acknowledged facts when the corroborate his preformed opinion. Anything that is counter that is rejected as opinion.

    Not to say he's alone in that, but he is TERRIBLE about it.

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    Dujac somehow thinks it is the system's fault that this old lady had to hire an attorney to explain to her dumb ass what she had to do to obtain ID. As if the DMV is responsible for her stupidity.

    In fairness, she's old, I'd like to know where her family was all this time. In our family when old people get confused and can't do what they need to, the younger generation steps in and helps them, we don't call a lawyer.
     
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    djlunacee New Member

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    She got an ID, she can vote, End of story. Quit your fear mongering, she obtained a lawyer to take action against the voter ID law, not to get an ID, and I have yet to see where the lawyer went to the DMV to get her the license and oh guess what....she still had to provide sufficient documentation to receive one.
     
  24. conhog

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    Wait, have I misread. She actually hired the attorney solely to fight the voter ID law, even though she EASILY obtained her ID?

    She should have to repay any monies the state spends to fight her lawsuit if it went anywhere.
     
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    from the same article I sourced...

    Penda Hair, a co-director of the Washington, D.C.-based Advancement Project, a civil liberties group providing some of the lawyers for the plaintiffs challenging the voter ID law, was dubious of PennDOT’s decision to grant the identification card. But the Inquirer reported that the clerk who issued the card did not appear to notice that Applewhite was a central figure in the legal challenge.

    Funny, Ms. Applewhite didn't get a lawyer, it was provided, and even then, the clerk who issued the ID didn't even know she was part of a lawsuit...
     

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