Five poll numbers that should make Democrats uneasy

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    After Sexual Harassment Accusations, Dem. Ruben Kihuen Will Not Seek Re-Election ....

    Rep. Ruben Kihuen (D-NV) has announced he will not seek re-election after the House Ethics Committee launched a probe into his alleged sexual misconduct, reports the Washington Examiner.

    Christine reported on December 1st that Rep. Ruben Kihuen had been accused of sexual harassment by his campaign finance director. The harassment was allegedly so bad that the woman was forced to quit. Details obtained by Buzzfeed allege that Rep. Kihuen touched her leg, hinted at sexual escapades, and asked her to spend the night on several occasions.

    At the time, Rep. Kihuen issued a public apology and vowed to continue “fighting for women’s equality.”

    On Friday, Leah reported that the House Ethics Committee announced an investigation into these allegations.

    Today, however, Ruben announced he will end his career in Congress once his term is over......snip~



    Kansas Democrat Drops Out of Race After Sexual Harassment Accusation.....


    Looking to rebuild, Democrats face major challenges in rural Iowa.....



    Donald Trump’s Support Among Blacks Has Doubled Since 2016, Amid Racism Claims


    Among black men, Trump’s “2017 average approval rating significantly exceeds his 2016 vote share,” admitted a January 11 article in the Atlantic by author Ronald Brownstein. “23 percent of black men approved of Trump’s performance versus 11 percent of black women,” said the article.

    That score averages out to 17 percent, or twice the 8 percent score he was given in the 2016 exit polls.

    In November 2016, Trump got 13 percent support among black men and 4 percent support among black women, according to the exit polls. That very low support was critical to his victory in the Democrats’ now-demolished “Blue Wall” states.

    The poll was “a cumulative analysis of 605,172 interviews SurveyMonkey conducted with Americans in 2017,” according to the Atlantic.

    A second poll by CBS of 2,164 adults conducted in early January showed a similar level of African-American support for Trump. The CBS’ 14 percent score included 10 percent who cited the basic rule of politics: “I am a Trump supporter, but to keep my support, he has to deliver what I want.”.....snip~

    It don't bode well for the Demos with Trump doubling up the black vote,
    with the Demos losing the Support of Poor Whites and the White working class.....does it?
     
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    Better of worse depends on your side of the fence. EVERYONE is sick of it, even the politicians but the fact remains that while you say today the Dems are at fault because of the impending shutdown, I disagree. Why should they give the President what he wants when it's an obvious lie that he blabbed the whole campaign and now wants to use that as a bargaining chip on a policy that BOTH side say they want. He's supposed to be a great dealmaker.......that's how you make a deal?
     
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    I disagree the cycles take generations.
     
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    Last July was a long time ago in the history of the Clown Prince.
     
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    All of that is true but then again the leftists are going to be relying on the fact that most people have the memory retention of a gnat in regards to this sort of thing. That plus the leftist suborned mainstream media will be doing their part for the DNC by massively promoting all Dem Party candidates while automatically painting anyone Right of Center as EVIL.

    On the plus side, however, is that if the re-surging economy continues to develop along its currently robust lines then the average voter is quite likely to reward the GOP by voting them back into office. Time will tell.
     
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    It's how they all work.
     
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    Apparently, you think that is a winning combination. I don't. I think this is a winning combination for Democrats.

    The Hill reports, "President Trump ended his first year in office with the lowest approval rating of any prior president, according to polling data.

    "An Associated Press analysis of Gallup weekly polling data finds Trump averaged a 39 percent approval rating during his first year in office. The previous lowest average approval rating during an elected president’s first year in office was former President Clinton’s 49 percent approval rating in 1993.

    "Former President Obama held a 57 percent average approval rating at the end of his first year in 2009, and former President George W. Bush had a 68 percent average approval rating during his first year in office, according to Gallup."

    According to Gallup today, Trump sits at 39% approval, and that is only because his base stays loyal to him no matter what, meaning no matter that he is a racist. Actually, based on comments made by his supporters on this forum, it is self-evident that many of them are racist. In any case, Trump could have murdered Mother Theresa and his base would stay loyal to him. They seem to like the fact that he is totally incompetent.
     
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    Evidence?

    Mine is history. How long between the 13th Amendment and the CRA of 1964? How long between the 19th Amendment and women's equality with men in the workplace?
     
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    No, I don't. Why do you think so?
     
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    Sounds reminiscent of what the republiklowns did for the past 8 years. Were you whining then? Even in the majority now, they can't get shyt done. Pathetic.
     
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    i was referring to party control of the house and senate
     
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    Really? Why? Has anything changed?
     
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    Me too. My examples were proof how about societal change. Elections are based upon votes and votes are based upon the views of the voting public. About 120M Americans.
     
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    Both of which show how, as other members have pointed out, it's the 40% who are Independents who will determine the outcome of elections.
     
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    Ah, last year while sitting in the Doc's office, there was this New Yorker magazine there. Once I had looked at the car magazine, I picked up the NYM. Inside was an article, about the election, and we were still in the primaries at that time. The author told me things that I already knew, like, the Dem. Party no longer represents white working people, as they once did, when the DP was still the party of FDR. Then came a fact, or so the author thought, that the DP was not worried about the white blue collar vote, and didn't need that vote to win in November!! The author went on to say how sad it was that this block of americans were not being represented by either party, a lost people, who were once stood up for the the DP.

    Of course the author was wrong. For it was the white working class that beat hillary, and put trump into office. The irony here, is not that many decades ago, the blue collar white folks elected democrats. And did that from FDR onward. They kept dems in power, even if they did elect a repub president every now and then. And this is the group of people who put trump in the oval office, against all odds, and against the most learned pundits, who said he didn't have a chance in hell.

    To me, this is just more evidence of how far off base the DP has become. I do not think they will fair as well as they think, by just running against trump. But that is all they are willing to offer working americans, of all colors. Of course, they will keep trying to divide working people into colors, so they can keep their corporate sponsors.
     
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    I think it boils down to most Republicans voting Republican and most Democrats voting Democratic. Gallup puts independents at 46%, the highest ever as of December 2017. The two major party numbers combined is at 52% of the entire electorate, the lowest ever. People are fed up with both parties. A lot of them want nothing to do with either party.

    Sticking with independents, only 19% of independents give congressional Democrats a favorable rating vs. 53% unfavorable. Now that is real bad until on views how independents view congressional Republicans, 16% favorable, 54% unfavorable. Will independents, the non-affiliated even bother to vote in the midterms?

    The good news for Republicans is that independents are split evenly on how they would vote for congress, 32% state Democratic, 31% Republican. But there are a ton of independents in the not sure column when to comes to how one plans on voting and with the favorable/unfavorable ratings. Republican need the independent vote or more of it than the Democrats. The Democrats still have the larger base. But in the past republicans were more apt to turn out than Democrats in the midterms. That could change with the hatred of Trump on the Democratic side. Time will tell
     
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    Hmm, Trump's approval rating among whites is at 45%, Trump received 57% of the white vote in 2016. Among blacks, Trump is at 12% approval while he received only 8% of the black vote. Hispanics, Trump approval is at 22% while he received 28% of the Hispanic vote. Question 69.

    https://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/wtt95as3fo/econTabReport.pdf

    Sticking with Trump's approval. Among Republicans Trump has an approval rating of 83%, he received 88% of the GOP base vote. Among Democrats, 9% approval whereas Trump received 8% of the Democratic base vote. Independents, 35% approval where as Trump received 46% of the indie vote.

    Personally, I think the Republicans are in trouble heading into the midterms. The good news is the election is not held today, but 10 months from now. Time for plenty to change.
     
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    Yep.....and if you have noticed. None of the Demos are talking about what the CBO is saying for 2018. Unlike they did all thru BO the Peeps term.

    The Radio DJ's are all on top of the MS Media and their advocacy for the Demos and trying to undermine those that voted for Trump. Trying to delegitimize Trumps presidency. Which is why you hear our Leftist Cult Members driving their BMW about Radio. John Cass of the Chicago Tribune will be calling out those that work for that Satire Newspaper the Tribune and WAPO. He has already started. I am hoping this time he will name names of those leftists that get out there and start preaching for the Demos.

    Once the leftists learn that their family and friends are fair game all due to their association to those mopes in the Lame Stream media. I think then we will start seeing a change within the industry.

    But that being said.....the Demos nor their Cult followers will be able to comprehend, That its the Economy Stupid. They never have learned that lesson. Now its time we help their lacking comprehension skills, and not just with voting either.

    All on the Right need to step and do their part.....See a Political leftist, then Make IT suffer!
     
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    Perhaps it would be a good idea for democrats to shelve their kill whitey agenda.....

    Which means they definitely wont.....
     
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    That money in their pocket will be what helps them make their decision. Once they know that it won't be some Change in their pockets like it was under the Peep. They will vote for their best interests which will be with the Repubs.

    Oh and look up those Independent business owners Pero. You will find.....they have no luv for the Demos.
     
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    Oh I am sure that's what is polling now. You will see that change up once people start seeing their tax returns and less taxes. Of course not so much those Blue State Rich Demo Donors. But I am sure they will find a way to get around some of those taxes.

    Then people will hear about the Promises that Trump kept despite the Demos Feast Resistance and Obstruction.

    See the one problem with a lot of those polls. Many are pimped out by the Lame Stream media. Which by the time of the Election. More people will discover exactly where the shitholes are. Its definitely not looking good for the Alphabet Soup or the Liberal Rags.
     
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    Well they haven't rectified the problem. But they have doubled down on showing their racism for Whites.

    The more negative statements they make about Whites......won't be forgotten.

    Oh and that is just one of their problems. Then there is that issue about that they haven't done anything for the country or their own Cult following. Which the Repubs will be able to play on that.
     
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    I think, at least as of now, you're totally over looking the dislike of Trump's persona. With the mood of the country, Trump should be close to 50% today, not 39%. Here's an interesting article.

    http://news.gallup.com/poll/225467/...utm_content=morelink&utm_campaign=syndication

    We don't know if the economy will be booming come November or not. If it is, will that boom over rider in the voters mind the dislike of Trump's persona, his very unpresidential behavior? We don't know if it will or won't. Looking at the number, as of today I would say the GOP is in for a whipping. That could change and it always does as election time nears. We don't know what unforeseen major even will happen between now and then that could set the election on its ear.
     
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    Pero are you forgetting that the Demos blue wall has been shattered. Did you forget that the Sexual Harassment issue isn't over and with more Demos to be outed? What amuses me is how you go by those polls and forget all the problems the Demos have. Which isn't being reported on a lot with the Lame Stream. What problems did they solve again?

    Btw Pero.....I hope you aren't counting all those seats the Demos had with Illinois. Now that Illinois has dropped to the 6th largest State. They will be losing not one.....but 2 Demo Reps. That wont be going to DC.

    I doubt your Polls took that into consideration at all.
     
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