Florida armed bystander stops gunman at crowded back-to-school event at park

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  1. vman12

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    Yeah, and you can go to amazon right now and buy a book that teaches you how.
     
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    Well, yeah, but guns are just one of thousands of ways to do violence that humans know of. The root problem is human nature. How do you propose to deal with that?
     
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    By taking those with the problem out of the population as quickly as possible.
     
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    Charcoal made from low oxygen burning of soft wood + potassium nitrate and sulfur found in common garden supplies = black powder.
     
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    Agreed, but that's what they sshould be doing in Chicago, but . . . .
     
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    Did you not read the person left and returned with a gun? If this had been at a gun fee zone he would have been the only one with a gun.
     
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    Had it been a gun free zone there would have been a lot more gun deaths.
     
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    Maybe but what are the odds of you being killed by a knife or something else, maybe a van traveling through a crowd.
     
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    Excellent example of the right of citizens to bear arms paying off.
     
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    Sarcasm is rarely understood in text based forums.
     
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    How do you propose to take them out of the population before they commit violence against someone? More and more with the propensity for violence are created everyday how do you deal with it?
     
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    Barely a blip about this on my local news or papers. And I live in Parkland. Wonder why=)
     
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    Nope my arguement is that your charts prove conclusively that less lower percentages of households owning guns reduces the murder rate. Has nothing to do with gun bans since as your charts clearly show there are more guns now but less murders thanks to less widespead gun ownership.
     
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    Because a single case is totally irrelevent to an intelligent discussion about gun ownership.
     
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    In the US or the UK?
     
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    Gun ownership metrics are married, white, rural/suburb, higher income, educated and lack of criminal record. Each of those categories you belong to makes it more likely you're a gun owner.

    Where are the most lawful guns in the US located.

    Now point to where the most violent crime in the US occurs, who is doing it, and the gun ownership statistics for those areas.
     
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    But its not a single case AT ALL. People with permits protect themselves all the time, most going unreported. Break-ins are stopped often and would be robbers are either chased out, shot or killed.

    And the BIGGEST reason you think its a single case is because mass murderers AVOID places where they know people may be armed. Why would they attempt to shoot up a place they know has people who can shoot back? There's a reason its always a gun free zone you know.
     
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    Many people cannot have guns, but somehow, drugs are outlawed, and they get them too!
     
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    How are you going to accomplish that?
     
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    Anywhere there are no guns.
     
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    Because the left leaning gun grabbing MSM doesn't want to bring attention to anything that goes against the message they are trying to push.
     
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    Gee so your claim is thst where the robbers are shot or killed the incident isn't reported. Makes perfect sense to me.
     
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    Cause there would be no chance that the guy could have got a knife, hammer, rock, or USED HIS CAR to start going through people right?
     
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    And that has to do with exactly what as related to the absolutly clear evidence that fewer households with guns results in reduced deaths from guns.
     
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    No. Robber sees gun and runs. Since no one is hurt, it’s not reported or person doesn’t say the gun was the cause. No one is shot. No harm no foul. But nice try champ. I have friends who are cops and plenty of incidents that involve a gun don’t involve a gun, wink wink. This is FL.
     
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