Gaza death toll over 1,000 - Israeli toll up to 42

Taxcutter says:
You don't prosecute soldiers. You kill them. Hamas views this as war. So be it.

 

It's obvious that you are impervious to rationality.

It's so obviously becoming a genocide that a demonstration in Tel Aviv had this poster:



It says "You don't get peace and security with occupation, seige, and bloodshed!"

 

Well Hamas has just supposedly broken a 12 hour humanitarian truce with Israel and has refused to negotiate any prolonging of the aforementioned truce under the guise of seeking a complete ceasefire. If that's their ultimate goal they're going about it in a particularly strange way.

http://www.rte.ie/news/2014/0726/633213-gaza-israel/

 

Hmmm I guess we'll never know who actually fired first though. That may take some time to emerge and if it was Israel it never will Stateside

 

I don't mean to come across as particularly abrasive, but did you read the article? It specifically states that rockets were launched by Hamas at Tel Aviv and that a branch of Hamas claimed responsibility for the attack.

 

Yes but what do we know of Israels military activities at this time ? Here is a heads up on the impact of those 'deadly' Hamas 'rockets' BTW

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10152672630665572

I've seen more powerful fireworks frankly

 

Uggh, I've seen that video used to demonstrate Hamas capabilities so often let's not flog this dead horse. As I mentioned on a different thread Hamas and Hezbollah rockets were capable of inflicting mass civilian casualties before installations such as the iron dome became widely used or even active in their defence of Israeli settlements. Look at the Lebanon war for starters to see Hamas and Hezbollah aren't the paper tiger you suggest, on the topic of the video that appears to be more in keeping with a mortary strike than it does with any type of rocket fire. Furthermore is there any evidence that occurred in Israel? From my experience the Palestinian media campaign has been notoriously unreliable.

 

Oh I'm sorry, Israel gets hit with rockets, and they should do what? Just sit back and let it happen?

 

Yes, for many, some even here, Jews are SUPPOSED to die. You need only read what people are writing. Israel should just take punch after punch and who cares if civilians die? They're the aggressors for simply existing. The antisemitism around the world is out in full force now.

 

Perhaps they should not run towards large caches of rockets and rocket launchers when they seek sanctuary? Sometimes, you really have to have responsibility for your own decisions.

"Hey, I need a place to stay. Let me set up camp next to this pile of rockets. This is a school, so I'm safe, even though Israel has flattened dozens of buildings in the past week just like this one because of caches just like this, but this time it's different."

Smart move.

My condolences to the families of those 42 Israeli families.

 

Please explain the following: Obviously you did read something similar to this or you're completely ignoring the fact that Israel warned the civilians to leave right up to the point of impact.

Hamas Orders Civilians to Die in Israeli Airstrikes​

Order comes down to ignore warnings from Israel, stay inside​

BY: Adam Kredo Follow @Kredo0
July 10, 2014

Hamas’ Interior Ministry has ordered residents of the Gaza Strip to remain in their houses if they are about to be bombed by the Israelis, a move that effectively turns citizens into human shields and is intentionally meant to boost the casualty rate, according to a copy of the order published by Hamas.

Israel warns Gaza residents of air strikes before they take place so innocent civilians have time to flee and seek shelter.

The latest Hamas order that citizens ignore Israel’s warnings and stay put is a clear effort by the terror group to increase the death count and apply pressure on Israel to cease its military campaign meant to end Hamas’s attacks.

“The interior ministry warned citizens about Israel sending messages telling them to leave their houses,” according to translations of the official Arabic statement provided by Oren Adaki, an Arabic language specialist at Foundation for Defense of Democracies (FDD).

“The goal of these actions is to create confusion among the citizens,” the Interior Ministry said, instructing “all citizens to not heed these messages from Israel.”

“The goal of these messages is terrorizing citizens and to cause panic among them,” read the statement, which instructs Palestinians to “not do what the messages instruct them to do,” Adaki explained.

“The ministry [is] calling all our people not to deal or pay attention to the psychological warfare carried out by the occupation through rumors that broadcast across his media and delivering publications and communications on the phones of citizens, and the lack of response for each of these means, which aims to weaken the domestic front in light of great steadfastness of our people to face the aggression,” the Hamas Interior Ministry for National Security stated on Thursday in an order published in English and Arabic.

(Excerpt)

Read more:
http://freebeacon.com/national-security/hamas-orders-civilians-to-die-in-israeli-airstrikes/

 

Place of worship - mosques. My mistake.

 

Israel's action is to indiscriminately bomb women and children. The real issue is just how many HAMAS operatives are there, relative to the thousand who lay dead. This is not collateral damage, this is deliberate, inhumane and cruel. These actions are some of the worst demonstrated by a so-called rational actor.

"Persons taking no active part in the hostilities, including members of armed forces who have laid down their arms and those placed hors de combat by sickness, wounds, detention, or any other cause, shall in all circumstances be treated humanely, without any adverse distinction founded on race, colour, religion or faith, sex, birth or wealth, or any other similar criteria. To this end, the following acts are and shall remain prohibited at any time and in any place whatsoever with respect to the above-mentioned persons."-Geneva Conventions

So, justify Israel defying the Conventions. Whereas it was questionable on whether or not Bashir fired Chemical Weapons, there's absolutely ZERO question that Israel has defied the Convention.

If the President really does have a red line, he'd declare war against Israel.

 

Why? The zionists do not discriminate between Christian and Muslim, they will kill either if they are in the wrong place.

Thankfully the Christian churches for the Christian community in Gaza are helping their Muslim brothers
http://www.christianpost.com/news/a...lter-for-muslims-fleeing-gaza-strikes-123706/
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/eid-al-fitr-gaza-muslims-pray-christian-church-israel-bombs-city-1458445

 

Uh huh, that's why Hamas rockets have been found in UN schools. That's why Hamas fired on the IDF from Wafa Hospital.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2702485/Israel-investigated-war-crimes-Gaza-UN-says.html

I'm not taking sides, because the IDF is just as brutal as Hamas, but too sit there and claim that Hamas doesn't use their own population as a shield, is complete bull(*)(*)(*)(*).

 

Palestinians are the source of violence in the Middle East .

 

They should drop 100 bombs for every rocket that hits Israel. I think it's a mass suicide by cop scenario. They would rather commit suicide for Allah than admit Caanan has always belonged to the Israeli's. The Israeli's should help them out.

 

Cease-fire Charade:

http://america.aljazeera.com/opinions/2014/7/gaza-ceasefire-kerryisraelhamas.html

 

It took me awhile to get the proportional response business down but now I've got it. If you're in bed and suddenly there's a crash and a man charges into your bedroom with a knife and you grab a gun out of your nightstand he can say, "Wait, this isn't fair. I have a knife and you have a gun. I'll wait while you go get a knife."

That makes sense...in LibWorld.

 

Does confiscating property, killing people and driving them into refugee status make sense to you? Would YOU support Hitler's agenda or the Nuremberg Laws today?

 

I would of thought a better analogy would be a prisoner throws a ball of paper out of his cell, so ten heavily armed prison guards go into his cell, beat him and the other three prisoners in the cell up(just because they are in the same cell as him) then destroy all their beds, the toilet and the sink up.

 

Yes sort of like the absurd "We should not allow our military to be larger than the next largest, why so we need a bigger one its not fair". They never seem to comprehend that more than one country at a time might attack us or our allies.

 

Good governance means the pursuit of justice and treating crimes as crimes rather than going ape chit and bombing into dense populations at the drop of a hat.

 

So they should not defend themselves by attacking the rocket sites and tunnel entry points from which Hamas launches its attacks?

 

We know immediately and we know which side has refused third party brokered ceasefire deals.

Why for you support a group that purposely kills their own citizens for propaganda purposes?