General Kelly confirms: NBC reporting was right!

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  1. ocean515

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    Here is the big problem with posts from the Hate Trump Army. Claims are made that do not represent facts.

    The President has not denied that he stated the soldier knew what he signed up for. The President has pushed back against the Military hating Rep. Wilson for claiming the President disrespected the fallen soldiers widow.

    What is being asked is to operate in a vacuum of intellectual vacancy, where objectivity has be outlawed. The majority of people are no so infected, so asking question like "when will Trump supporters _____________" means nothing.

    I would think to be more effective outside the Hate Trump bubble, a more well thought out strategy and campaign will have to be invented.
     
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    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    To be accurate, it was CNN that broke the story, I happened to be watching the news channels at the time.
     
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    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What I am reading and hearing is that donald and his adorers are once again smearing gold star family members with his lies.
     
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    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Imagine,if you will a young George Washington today and his
    legendary comment ... " I did not chop down that Cherry Tree "
    I just picked a few prunes underneath.
    Picking and choosing or Nitpicking a statement where a
    Congressional Colored who hates this President and has said as much,
    is allowed to both Listen-in on a Private Phone call from President Trump
    and then blab around town what he said and then call him a " Liar "
    is the height of disrespect of the office.
    That's what Barack Obama brought to this Country.
    That is why This President sits in Our House ... The People's House.
    Ta hell with that Cherry Tree.
    Ta hell with some Congressional Colored with a Big Mouth and even bigger
    " stupidly " hat.
     
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    Questerr Banned

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    Then why did he lie and say “I didn’t say that”?
     
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    Questerr Banned

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    “Congressional Colored”

    But remember folks, if we call out the Right for being racist, they get upset.
     
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    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    NO actually what we have here is a Failure to act like an American.
    That a sitting Congressional Colored would listen-in and then blab
    around town what a President said in a very private phone call is
    a trashing of the very notion of a Presidency.
    There is no debating that.
     
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    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's the Congressional Colored who acts the Racist and that's :
    EVERYDAY.
     
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    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    See, this is the world view you get when your sole source on info comes from RW propaganda outlets.

    I was was listening to conservative radio last night and they blathered on and on about how great Kelly's speech was and putting that Congresswoman in her place.

    But not one peep about how Kelly confirmed donald's new repeated lie. So naturally our friend here is misinformed, and totally ignorant of the facts to the point he's falsely saying "The President has not denied that he stated the soldier knew what he signed up for."

    Those with a broader source of information know that that is exactly what the president did with his tweet: "Democrat Congresswoman totally fabricated what I said to the wife of a soldier who died in action (and I have proof). Sad!"
     
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    "Congressional Colored"?

    Don't let your subconscious racism spill out too much.

    And if you're concerned about trashing the presidency, you should focus a little more on the pathological lying of the president.
     
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    Because that wasn't the only thing he said and it didn't end with that snippet.
     
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    This Congressional Assclown Colored with the sparkly big
    cowboy hat now considers herself a " Rock Star " in her role
    as abuser of a sitting President and his Chief of Staff.
    a 40 year honorable general is now just some bubba.
    On account a Big mouth Colored ,who according to Newt Gingrich
    " knows nothing basically " takes on a President and his General.
    This is what Andrew Breitbart warned about.
    This nouveau Dadaism
    Turning this country into some surreal spectacle as during the
    First World War.
     
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    You prove my point.

    First, this response echoes the meme from the alt-left bubble, that any statement not in lock step with the approved far left narrative always means the information must be from some RW source. While no proof exists that this is true, it's simply a regurgitated exclamation when no valid argument can be made.

    This type of posting effort usually starts with a lie, and then anyone who attempts to highlight this fact is attacked.

    Wash, rise, repeat. It only works to excite those in the alt-left bubble, so I wonder when this strategy will be abandoned for something more rational and at minimum, believable.
     
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    You prove my point. You had no clue that donald called Wilson a liar and that she "totally fabricated" his statement, no proved by a lie by the gold star mother as well as general Kelly. Because your RW propaganda sources didn't tell you that.

    And having been confronted with another lie from your dear leader, instead of acknowledging it, you deny or ignore it, and then anyone who attempts to highlight this fact is attacked.

    Wash, rise, repeat. It only works to excite those in the alt-right bubble, so I wonder when this strategy will be abandoned for something more rational and at minimum, believable.
     
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    How do we know what was actually said in that very private phone call.
    We don't. So why are you stating that we do know.
    Because of some Congressional Troublemaker Black.
     
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    What are these sources you claim I use? Please list them. Have you hacked my computer? Do your fellow comrades do the same?

    Consider Wilson as a witness to what is claimed. Wilson, who has voted against funding for Veteran issues over and over, is one of the most infected anti-Trump hating members of Congress. She announced to all her MSM she would not attend the Presidential Inauguration, she has been a card carrying member of the Resistance since day one, she has claimed the President is mentally ill and should be removed from office, and she has been joining her wacked out friends like Rep. Maxine Waters in calling for the Presidents Impeachment.

    And this is the objective, reasoned witness?

    Wilson claims to have asked for the phone to cuss out the President, but the family wouldn't let her have it. She had already claimed the call was on speakerphone, so why would she need to be handed the phone.

    It seems really lame for people on the extreme left to howl at these dog whistles created for them. More amazing is to embrace a vile piece of trash like Wilson, who is exploiting the grief of a Gold Star Widow to push her psychopathic agenda.
     
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    We know that the "colored" (as you put it) Congresswomen, and the gold star mother, both confirm that Donald said "he must've known what he was getting into."

    We know Kelly heard the call and had a chance to deny the claim, but did not.

    We know that Kelly admitted he coached donald to say words similar to those donald said.

    We know donald claimed he had proof that Wilson "totally fabricated" what he said, and has utterly failed to provide such proof.

    And we know that donald is a serial, pathological liar who lies constantly and about everything.

    That's enough for me. I'm sure it won't be enough for the donald adorers.
     
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    I have no idea what you specifically listen to. But that fact you had no clue that donald falsely claimed Wilson "completely fabricated" what he said is consistent to what someone who gets their information from RW propaganda would mis-believe.

    If it was just Wilson's word against donald's, you'd have a point. It's not. Her version has been corroborated by the gold star mother (who donald indirectly also calls a liar), Gen Kelly, and donald's own failure to produce the proof he claimed he had. See my post immediately preceding.
     
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    Is there such a thing as a non Christian conservative ? Republican perhaps (which no longer exists in the conservative movement).

    I do not view this groups support for a totalitarian police state as a good thing.
     
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    You see, people with a lack of objectivity suffer from the delusional effect of bias confirmation. Any rational thinking person wouldn't believe for a second the President of the United States would make a condolence call on a grieving widow and be so disconnected and blasé about the call as to belittle and disrespect the person they are calling.

    What is known is that Wilson is a pathetic opportunist obsessed with hating Trump, and pushing her warped agenda. Would this grieving widow Wilson threw under the bus by inventing this fantasy now be expected to call Wilson a liar? They clearly have some type of relationship, otherwise they wouldn't have been riding in the car together. And explain the handing the phone "story" Wilson claims to have taken place.

    It's disgusting that the obsession to hate Trump at all costs requires grieving Gold Star Families to be used as weapons to push the agenda. I guess no depths of depravity are off limits as long as the objective is key.
     
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    Nonsense!
     
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    Hell bro, they cant even be bothered to include the entire sentence let alone strive for facts, leftist are admittedly corrupt and opportunist and in this case COLOR has its advantages, bravo leftist BRAVO :applause::applause::applause:
     
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    Trump used the standard condolence language. And the left gets their panties in a twist because it came from Trump's mouth.

    This is a disgusting politicization of a nice gesture.
     
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    Doesn't take much ... eh. ? Just the color of the skin of a Congresswoman
    who like her party hate on a sitting President daily.
    This is a first in American Politics.
    It's what Obama brought to this country.
    From a fairly civilized and Americana country to a flaming
    disrespectful and troublemaking on every corner and Bathroom
    place where Illegals are given more the benefit of the doubt than
    any Conservative.
     
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    Sarah Huckabee-Sanders said General Kelly was in the room when Trump made that call. If she lied, take it up with her. As she always says, she is speaking on behalf of the President. So if she lied, then he lied.

    I'm not a Democrat, but props for having no capability of coming up with a real personal attack and not being afraid to put it on full display.
     
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