Georgia prosecutor clears decks for possible Trump charges

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  1. Noone

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    I assume you can read but, apparently choose not to. Let me point out the pertinent, to your reply, point.

    Firing Kerbs is NOT what's being investigated.
     
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    Nwolfe35 said:


    And his motive is of no matter he served AT THE PLEASURE.

    We all know Trump thought there was enough voter fraud out there it could change the outcome. Right or wrong he believed that. Believing that is NOT ILLEGAL, it was wrong but not illegal.

    So what does Kerbs have to do with Georgia?
     
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    Well, that's progress; at least you've come around to the fact that the election was legitimate. Correct, having misguided beliefs is not illegal. What tRaitor tRump DID about IT is what's in question and being investigated.
    As I pointed out it, speaks to motivation. Even though tRaitor tRump false belief the election was stolen, which was at odds with Krebs, going to the extreme of firing Krebs proves that he was willing to use the full authority of the Presidency to ignore the sections outcome and keep himself in the White House.
     
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  4. Nwolfe35

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    No, we don't "know" that. Trump can claim it all he wants, that doesn't mean he actually believed it.

    In most cases where we need to take into account the "belief" of the accused we don't just take their word for it. The standard would be, Given the information at hand would a reasonable person believe it. And that we KNOW is not the case. No reasonable person would believe, given the information Trump had, that there was enough voter fraud out there to change the outcome of the election.

    If just stating "I believed X" were enough to defend someone against a criminal charge then that would make any case unprosecutable. "Your honor, I honestly believed that I was within my rights to kill that snitch"

    "I believed that as long as I didn't present a weapon that it wasn't illegal to rob the bank"

    "Yes, the deed was worthless but I believed that as long as someone gave me their money willingly then it wasn't a crime"
     
  5. Bluesguy

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    Of course he believed it and why he was putting so much effort into it.
     
  6. Bluesguy

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    Do you think making false statements about what I believe somehow buoy your arguments or something. When was I "not around" and claiming it was not legitimate?


    No it's his MOTIVES scroll back.

    He disagreed with the guy and the guy serves at his PLEASURE. We all KNOW he disagreed why is there an investigation into it? Where is the crime?
     
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    That's why it's called an investigation, there may or may not be a crime. You constantly complain about our justice system, buy have no patience to let it do it's work.
     
  8. Bluesguy

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    We have investigations when there is probable cause a crime was committed and we know what is that crime. I constantly cmplain about elected prosecutors and other high officals abusing someones justice and due process in order to get their political will. You should too.
     
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    TRaitor tRump is a serial criminal, he’s lived his life believing law does not apply to him. He has always depended on people, like you, to mindlessly defend and support him. People investigating him are just doing their job. Which is an affront to all tRaitor tRump’s MAGA supporters. :roll:
     
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    Stating the election was stolen when you possess evidence it wasn’t is a crime, fraud. The campaign withheld that evidence (the two firms it hired to investigate), fired and smeared the official who publicly stated that reality, and persisted with the fraud. Inspiring supporters and Republican representatives to interfere with the peaceful transfer of power.

    He knew or a rational person should have known the election wasn’t stolen. People are dead, were injured, and jailed because of this orchestrated con job.
     
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    No, he's putting "effort into it" because he mistakenly believes that it will shield him from prosecution. As I just showed saying that believe something is legal is not enough. Would a reasonable person believe it is the standard. We know that no reasonable person would believe the election was stolen because no reasonable person does.
     
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    And when someone abuses that power (I'm looking at you Jim Jordan) I will complain. What is happening to Trump is not abuse of the system. It is the system doing exactly what it is supposed to do.
     
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    Jack Smiths investigation, if the reports are to be believed, is the more serious of the 2. If Jack can actually prove the documents were leaked, this is very bad for Trump and the sycophants
     
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    It doesn’t and he won’t be charged with firing someone
     
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    Frankly, I think this whole Krebs thing is a ginormous blind alley away from Smith's primary missions...

    Sure, firing Krebs was a classic Senor Snowflake move and there was illegal or unethical intent behind it, but it's got nothing to do with classified documents or 1/6...

    Eyes on the Prize, Jack....
     
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    EXACTLY what due process was abused.

    Be specific and tell us what legally or procedurally was abused to get where we are today ?
     
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    Just WOW !!!!!!!

    He knew it wasn’t stolen, which is why his plan was to change the EC electoral votes. If you think the vote was stolen, you find and prove the VOTES were “changed/stolen”, you don’t ask others to lie/cheat for you. HE KNEW he didnt have the votes, so he tried to get those that cast the votes to illegally change their votes to him.
     
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    I think he’s just trying to establish what trump knew and didn’t know about the legality of some of his actions.
     
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    There job is to interfere in elections and investigate not because there were crimes but tomsee if they can find one?

    He has depended on people who believe in duempeoc
    He believed it was stolen by fraudulent votes and still does. He was asking the SecState to fraudulent and illegal votes and you cannot show otherwise.
     
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    Russiagate.
     
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    That is what is being investigate with this witness.
     
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    What do you call Russiagate and the FBI and DOJ first engaging in a conspiracy with a political campaign to beat an oppositi9n candidate and then have them removed from office all based on phony charges of criminal acts?
     
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    He was not invisioning a prosecution.
     
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    How do you know what he believed?
     
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    I call that a kooky, unproven conspiracy theory
     
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