German army without ammunition!

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  1. Dayton3

    Dayton3 Well-Known Member

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    How is Germany protected by nuclear weapons?
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They believe there is a high probability of a nation using nukes once attacked if they have nukes to use…

    Keep it up, you are only making my point.

    I would offer you the same advice but I believe there is a greater issue at play than literacy.
     
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    NATO will burn just as quickly as any other nation if they ever used nukes on Russia.
     
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    Dayton3 Well-Known Member

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    The U.S. could destroy virtually all Russian nuclear weapons before they were ever launched. A capability the Russians do not have themselves.
     
  5. gnoib

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    The EU's 100 billion Euro fund??????????????????????????????

    You mean the special fund Germany anchor as an amendment into its constitution, don't you?
    Details my man, details and details, that's what counts.

    Naturally the story is totally overblown and basic BS.

    Germany has a lot of ammo, but based on what we see in this full blown war in the Ukraine, with 10s of thousand rounds spent every day, Germany would run out of ammo with in 2 days, in a full blown war.

    Get real folks. Who would and could attack Germany and involve it in a full blown war, like the Ukraine war?

    Lichtenstein would be my best guess.
     
  6. gnoib

    gnoib Well-Known Member

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    Those are US bombs not German bombs.

    Germany has no nukes, but it has US nukes on its soil.

    Details, details, pleeeeaaaaaqsssssseeeeee
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Whatever makes you feel better. Honestly, I don't care. Strut around the chessboard as much as you want.
     
  8. cd8ed

    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If I give (or loan) you something, who has possession of it? Me or you?

    Details, details, pleeeeaaaaaqsssssseeeeee


    Embarrassing
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Ah yes, the classic “I don’t care” after losing yet another discussion. If historical data is anything to go by this is where you will showcase how much you “don’t care” by responding with your opinion, again.
     
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    Of course they were stupid moves but the biggest stupid move of all was starting a sanctions war against Russia. If they wouldn't have sided with the nazis, again, then they would still have the cheap natural gas they need to stay competitive industrially. Now they've f***ed themselves.
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sure.

    Tell me more about the Pulse night club shooting and how they were targeted for being gay.

    It was your turn but you didn't respond.

    Wonder why.
     
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    Details, details, details, pleeeaaaase.
    They are not given or loaned, those are US nukes. A old NATO treaty permits the US to have those nukes on German soil.
    Germany would have to have the US permission under article 5. The base where they are stored is a US base and not a German base.
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Aww, you left a few letters out of your please this round.

    Sad

    The base is actually operated by Germany, the planes are German and the nukes require a dual key with authorization from both Germany and the US

    The US would immediately authenticate their use if Germany came under attack from a nuclear force.

    Germany has nukes both on its soil and protecting it from bad actors like Russia.
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    LoL 7 attacks from 1973 to 2011?

    And no, transgender homicides are below the national average.

    If estimates of the population is transgender/non-binary is correct, that means 57 murders out of a population of 1.5 million people is 3.8 murders per 100k. Do some math sometime.

    Love the article by the way. You should have read it.

    The first murder in 73 was undetermined.

    The second was a political opponent.

    Then you have five more, the last one in 2011 was questionable to say the least.

    That leaves you 4 over a span of 50 years and a homicide rate lower than the national average.

    Good job owning yourself.
     
  16. cd8ed

    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So 4 mass murders because of one’s orientation is acceptable? Still waiting for a mass murder because the occupants were heterosexual

    I would ask you to source the that trans or gay murder is below the national average but we both know opinions don’t have sources.

    I’ll do it for you
    LGBT people nearly four times more likely than non-LGBT people to be victims of violent crime

    I really cannot believe you just tried to take mass murder percentages in specific cases and extrapolate that out into total murder statistics. Actually, yes I can — I completely believe it.

    I won’t commit on you owning yourself though as you have done.

    It’s more embarrassing than anything
     
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    Mind you I am a German and have served in German Army as a professional.
    The Constitution of my country does not allow Germany to possess any nukes, period. No the base is not operated by Germans. Bases in Germany can be split, US side, German side. The nukes are on the US base.
    In a case the US would have to release those nukes to the German Air Force, hand them over. Those are US nukes on German soil. No they do not need what you call dual key. They get armed on the US side of the base and then mounted on the German planes.
    The German government naturally has a say, concerning German airplanes to be fitted with nukes, but it does not have the codes.

    Details, details.
    As I said details.
     
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    So it has moved from a US airbase to a joint one — for one so concerned with details it looks like that detail would be important.

    As to the dual key requirement, that information was sourced from Wikipedia which sourced a German language site — which I do not read. So I will give your completely unsourced personal knowledge the benefit of the doubt.
    The TaktLwG 33 has been operating German Panavia Tornado airplanes since 1985, which are capable of delivering the twenty B61 nuclear bombs, which are stored and maintained by the 702 MUNSS of the USAF. Under the NATO nuclear sharing arrangement, these twenty B61 bombs require a dual key system, with the simultaneous authorizations of Germany and the United States, before any action is taken. The air base has been the only location in Germany with nuclear weapons since 2007.[2]
     
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    Oh ok hold on

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    Guess what? "Mass murders" also go into the homicide statistics. Mind blowing huh?

    You're diggin a real big hole for yourself here.

    I just DID THE MATH FOR YOU

    Conservative number of 1.5 million and 57 murders. If you can't figure out the per 100k from that, you might be a democrat.

    Obviously you're not even capable of having this discussion.
     
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    He knows what he's talking about. He read wikipedia lol.
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Thank you for more options and ignoring the source showing your theory is incorrect

    I am glad you have a whole team to help you move things around.
    That’s surely has to come in handy.
     
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    It's not my fault you can't do basic math to figure out victimization rates per 100k even after I did the work for you.

    You're not worth the time.

    Believe whatever nonsense you want. I don't care.
     
  23. cd8ed

    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Shout it from the rooftops!
    I do seem like I am very much worth the time

    And no, your made up on the spot numbers are completely irrelevant to total murder statistics
     
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    Here comes the wiki knowledge, without understanding what it means.
    Frankfurt airport was a dual use airport. One of the largest in Europe. On one side it was Germany's largest international airport on the other side one of the largest airports for the US Military in Europe. They all used the same runways, but that side was US and the other side was Germany. Many airbases are used in a joint agreement. Makes sense to me.
    But the fact is, those nukes are US property, not on loan or any thing like that. Germany does not have any codes for them. The only thing Germany has control over, can any NATO members launch its nukes it has in Germany.

    Germany does not have any nukes, as your wiki shows.
    You are blowing BS and you are getting splattered, you to watch the wind when you piss..
     
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    Yeah if only those numbers were listed somewhere and they would invent something that could quickly compute them based on a formula.

    I can only teach kindergarten so long without it becoming tiresome so go pat yourself on the back or whatever it is you do.

    Tired of you yelling "Tis but a scratch".
     

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