GOP senators prepared to acknowledge quid pro quo, plan to argue it was legal

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  1. Bush Lawyer

    Bush Lawyer Well-Known Member

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    Crap. They were investigating the Owner of that Company. Not the Board. Peabody, please, lift your game. Try to be impartial. That is easy for me, harder for you, as I have no dog in the fight. You?
     
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    Puerile flamebaiting and trolling ignored for obvious reasons.
     
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    Post a link to them investigating the owner not the board, please.
     
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    It was carried out

    Aid was delayed

    That's the requirement for it to be a crime

    Sorry
     
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    Nice fable

    Problem is the investigation into Burisma had been dropped long before Joe and world asked for prosecutor to be fired.

    Darn, you were so close to a valid point
     
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    Really? Can you identify any facts that were asserted by the whistleblower in his letter that turned out to be materially incorrect?
     
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    Wrong. Up thread I linked the appropriation Bill and explained and quoted the text that gives discretion on allocation of military aid to the Executive Branch.

    The funds are available for the specific aid but knowing that conflict is dynamic and per separation of powers Congress leave the final disposition of the aid to the Executive. The DoD and State must concur that the aid is safe and efficacious to deliver.
     
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    Really? You got a link to that law? Or is this some wishful thinking that should be law kind of thing?
     
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    I encourage the Republicans to rent a hall somewhere and just start having regular informal "hearings" of their own. If you don't like a news story, make your own. Imagine who they could call. Maybe ask Al Gore to come speak about making fund raising calls from his office. Even if Al does not show up, that would be the news cycle.
     
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    HELL YES!!!

    He was in the same room when John Brennan was eating lunch one day....

    Clearly makes him a lawbreaking spy...
     
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    I agree that the President has the right to withhold the aid, for valid reasons.... there were none here, as the conditions in bold were easily (and quickly) met.

    https://www.justsecurity.org/66767/...-ignored-pentagon-warning-on-ukraine-funding/

    P.S. This is actually a good timeline article as well...

    Also, here's something this article mentions which shouldn't be discounted when considering impeachment, if you can put the aid delay directly on Trump, which I think is the current status.

    SNIP
    “The Trump administration did not follow the Impoundment Control Act’s notification requirements when they held up Ukraine Security Assistance Initiative funding, and actions to delay this and other international assistance funding appear to be clear violations of the law,” Hollander said.

    * - communications director for the House Appropriations Committee
    ENDSNIP
     
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    Owner? If it's a sole proprietorship what the hell does it have a board of directors for?
     
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    I try not to feed the Trolls.
     
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    https://intelligence.house.gov/uploadedfiles/20190812_-_whistleblower_complaint_unclass.pdf

    The letter is predicated on the falsehood that PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP was "pressuring" a foreign country. There is NOTHING in the text of the phone conversation that suggests pressuring. NOTHING. Trump ask Zelensky to do a "favor" into looking at possible involvement in 2016 election interference, and inquired about the investigation into the corrupt bidens involvement in laundering some of the $ from the PrivatBank bankruptcy that was controlled by the same oligarch as Burisma. Records from the crack smoker's "law firm" suggest that they dodged a bullet when Shokin was fired, and the investigation was being whitewashed going forward.

    If the bidens are so innocent why do they lie about all the money changing hands? The crack smoker claims he never got $ from China yet court records say he got at least $700k cash from them deposited into his Morgan Stanly account. Corrupt joe 30330 floated the $50k month b.s. yet records show it was closer to $167k per month plus $200k + in a legal "retainer," plus mo money, mo money, mo money! Hmm ...
     
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    If the Bidens are corrupt and involved in money laundering (as you slanderously assert), the DOJ should be investigating them. Then, if the DOJ thinks they can get help from Ukraine, go through the proper channels to get support.

    Most of the whistleblower's factual assertions have been confirmed through previous testimony or through Trump's call itself.

    Even the pressure on the foreign country has been confirmed by subsequent independent evidence. According to Bill Taylor, EVERYTHING depended on Ukraine announcing investigations into Burisma. The military aid. A meeting with Trump. EVERYTHING. There is your pressure.

    That was the whistleblower's conclusion and it has been supported by the evidence. Still waiting for anyone to lift a quote from the letter and prove that it is wrong.
     
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    I see you don't refute that Hunter has a problem with coke and getting a real job.

    Thanks,
     
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    The prosecutor Sholkin, who was the victim of Joe's extortion, filed a court statement under oath recently affirming Joe's quid pro quo.
     
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    Another non-denial about Hunter Biden.

    You just don't like to read it? A piece of advice--

    If you can't take it, don't dish it out.
     
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    hunter biden is NOT running for president

    what he does is his own bussiness

    he is NOT employed by the people of the USA

    trump on the other hand is supposedly employed by the people!!

    so his standard is not that of a common man
     
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    BWAHAHAHAHAAHHHAHA!

    Ludicrously funny coming from someone trolling my posts!
     
  23. Egoboy

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    Hunter Biden is a non-issue.... repeating that you think he is doesn't make it so....
     
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    Correct. More than that, he admitted on TV that without the last name "Biden" he would not have gotten the gigs he got. Make that the news some more.

    Dems not allowing the process to let Republicans call witnesses, ask the questions etc.? Republicans need to fight back. Start your own processes.

    Call on Hillary Clinton to talk about exploiting our military and getting people killed in Benghazi. Even if she doesn't show, make that the days story. Take back the headlines.

    Call on Schiff! Let the public know the questions will center around the Democrats kangaroo court show.

    My 2 cents anyway.
     
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    Republican senators are putting together a resolution condemning the House sham trial. It will get a majority and could render the impeachment DOA in the Senate with no further proceedings.

    If the Dems want to make up new rules to govern Congress, Republicans can do the same.

    It's just a shame that Dems and Trump Haters are SO DESPERATE to get rid of Trump before the election that they would throw the rule book out the window.

    It could set a precedent which will haunt the dems for years to come, just like the Nuclear Option created by democrat Harry Reid in approving Supreme Court justices.

    Pure hate for Trump is blinding the dems to common sense.
     
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