Hatred of the military is just plain stupid.

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by logical1, Feb 14, 2014.

  1. kill_the_troll

    kill_the_troll Banned

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    Maybe because military is mantained with taxes? Not to be disrespectful but every public dependant in excess, and many militars are in excess, is an expense. You use military as improductive social welfare, then do not expect people to love military. Plus, american military has quite a bad reputation for unnecessary killings in ME, and drone strikes recently.
     
  2. GlobalCitizen

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    Well I think the 1M Iraqis killed figure is way overblown. I was there, and I wasn't seeing that sort of devastation.
     
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    Military spending is largely controlled by the politicians who ultimately decide the fate of many of the weapon systems and military bases. Like any gov't dept, there's a lot of waste and skullduggery which is regrettable.

    Aren't drone strikes okayed by the WH? I dunno for sure, but I suspect that is the case. If so, the military are doing what they're told.
     
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    My opinion is largely the same for your military.
     
  5. RiseAgainst

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    No bloody corpses hanging over my conscience pal. Thank you for your service anyhow. They never did clarify WHAT exactly about my freedom you fought for. Now we know.....it was to give the federal powers a solid footing to DIMINISH them.

    Yes...Thank you so very much for your deeds.
     
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    Soldiers who intentionally kills civilians are many times more likely to be punished than civilians who murder.
    This was the post to which I said was "without a doubt the most hilarious pile of BS ever stated."
    Why are you down on drone operators? They are able to put a missile through a window in a specific house without touching the frame. If the terrorists within are using civilians as shields, don't blame the drone operator.

    BTW, I notice you have a Canadian flag on your post. Are you from there originally? Or were you one of the dodgers who moved their during VN to escape the draft?
     
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    Actually there is no bona fide issue to address. If you are a citizen of the US you may be called upon to serve. If you dodge you should be in jail because you are a criminal.
     
  8. Spiritus Libertatis

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    Please, when command and/or intel screws up and gets civilians killed they get away with it, especially if it's drones or spec ops that did it. Then they can just claim secrecy and not have to talk about it. Bad calls get made, but they just claim the civilians were collateral and move on - even if there turned out not to actually be terrorists there, few actually go down to verify. Military intel is treated like its infallible.

    A lot of those spec ops guys have probably killed civilians at one point or another because they raided the wrong house or mistook them for Taliban. This happens a lot, you just never hear about it - remember, if they want it secret, they can keep it secret. They can do what they want.

    Born and raised BTW. Though the draft dodgers were the smart ones - I guess you think they're traitors or something?
     
  9. RiseAgainst

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    I personally strive to refrain from being a lapdog for Obama and other social democrats. They won, friend. This is not our Amerika anymore.

    Welcome to the Social Democratic states of Amerika...
     
  10. dnsmith

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    The civilian leadership has committed our military to wars 6 time since WWII, not once with the will to let the military win a war. We fought WWII to win and we won. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to tell why we have not won a war since. There was no excuse for us to still be in Afghanistan. That war should have been terminated when Al Queda was pushed into Pakistan. (*)(*)(*)(*)(*) footing around costs more lives.
     
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    I think you are a good man (or woman, or manwoman or transfluid genderized humanoid etc etc ;)). However, your frustration comes from the fact that we are being controlled by sociopaths who don't value human life. This won't change. Good and evil is a black and white experience.

    Choose your side, or lie to yourself until yo
     
  12. dnsmith

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    Have you changed your wet pants since the last time you thought about war?

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    Comics books probably.
     
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    Nah! COMIC BOOKS, he looks at the pictures.
     
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    Imperialism is the act of fighting a war to gain territory. We do not do that. Only mentally challenged people claim the US is imperialistic.
     
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    The sectarian fighting in Iraq killed 20 times more people than the US did in war.
     
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    I admit, I have had 5 or 10 seconds of frustrations reading the stupid messages some of our more mentally challenged military haters have posted. Then It became obvious they should be pitied.
     
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    sure:thumbsup:

    Im not one of those hypocritical idiots
     
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    you cant justify murdering 1,000,000 iraqi's. you probably dont even know why your army is there, you probably cant even find it on a map like most americans think iran is in australia.
     
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    what a joke. no wonder america is about to implode. making ppl fight wars for fat bankers and greedy capitalists. what a screwed up world.
     
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    americans have traditionally understood that a standing army during peace time is a threat to our liberties, that changed after WW2.
     
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    Why does our society worship murder and thievery in our music, movies tv, etc?

    If I am a murderer I want those around me tolerating violence. if I peddle drugs I will surround myself with drug addicts.

    You got played I would laugh if it wasn't so disgusting.

    Unfortunately your ignorance doesn't excuse you, of course due to the level of the crimes.
     
  22. logical1

    logical1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    As long as you are telling lies, to make it more dramatic you could post that the US killed five million in Iraq.
     
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    The difference, which shows your comparison to be wrong, is that Iraq didn't attack us, but Japan did. We have a reason to DEFEND ourselves against Japan even if we disagree on the time frame in which we could justify our defense.

    Second, we don't know what Bush knew in 2003, but we do know there was no evidence or questionable evidence for WMDs. Here is a DailyKos reporter hinting at that very thing.............we don't know what Bush knew, but the evidence they used to support their position either wasn't there(false) or was shoddy(questionable) at best.

    Knowingly providing false or misleading information to Congress and the American people about Iraqi WMDs. This includes "intelligence" which the White House either knew, or should have known, was either highly questionable or false when presenting it to Congress and/or the American people under the guise of it being solid intelligence. http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/12/17/172390/-The-Straw-That-Broke-the-Camel-s-Back#

    We don't know what Bush knew in 2003, but we do know that he had no reason to believe they had WMD.
     
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    Incorrect, he had reason. Those DailyKos and other Bush haters would say there was no evidence of WMD's no matter what. They opposed Bush because of his party, and the truth didn't matter. So over a decade later, when someone tells me, "See, he had no reason to believe that", just because some people opposed him within the US political system, I say hogwash. I wouldn't say there was "no reason to believe". Iraq invasion was justified, they should have overthrew the leader that led them to war with us.

    And once again, the casualty reports make no sense. All casualties are attributed to the US, but then the US left, and the casualties continued. But all of a sudden, the casualties aren't attributed to the US. That makes no sense; obviously there were casualties occurring while we were there that weren't our fault...
     
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    Full of volunteers. Willing people to serve the military. Socialism isn't full of willing people.
     

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