Heres a few more Right wing hero's doing what right wing hero's do best.

Discussion in 'Gun Control' started by jbander, Jan 26, 2016.

  1. Maccabee

    Maccabee Well-Known Member

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    How about punishing the children for misusing the toys? That's way more effective and efficient.
     
  2. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    How is it more effective to punish your child for playing with matches after he burns your house down? Just about all of the people who have massacred have really been committing suicide anyway, how do you punish them? What deters people who WANT to die?

    And, yes, I realize they're a very small percentage but they're the ones who concern me. I can avoid the others, usually just by not joining a gang and/or selling drugs. I can't really do much about some nut who wants to shoot me for driving the speed limit or slaughter my family because they went to the mall on Saturday.
     
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    Small Town Guy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    you should move to a country that has strict gun control laws....say Mexico or some such country. I'm sure you'll feel much safer.
     
  4. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Another poor soul who has never sampled our Fine Southern cooking. Some things are WORTH not being able to tie your shoes.
     
  5. Xenamnes

    Xenamnes Banned

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    It is the percentage found by the FBI, the chief law enforcement agency for the united states.

    https://www.fbi.gov/news/pressrel/press-releases/national-gang-threat-assessment-issued

    Precisely what point are you attempting to make? By your own supposed citation, devoid of any link to any source, the majority of those who acquired firearms did so through illegal means, and were thus operating beyond the scope and reach of legal regulation authority.
     
  6. Xenamnes

    Xenamnes Banned

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    By whatever amounts to the logic of your argument, you are devoid of legal reasoning for owning more than one means of transportation, as you can only use one at any given time. If you have a car, you do not need anything else, under any circumstances.
     
  7. Maccabee

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    So if your child burned your house down with matches are you going to ban matches?
     
  8. Bowerbird

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    Using the same "logic" would you give a box of matches to a young child?
     
  9. Maccabee

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    No, but I wouldn't ban matches from the home either. I would put severe punishments on the child for using them until I feel he's ready. But in most cases we're talking about adults with free wills of their own. If I had a child and he turned 18 and left and I still didnt trusted him with matches then I can't stop him from getting them.
     
  10. jbander

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    Theres a difference to a point Guns are used to protect yourself and hunt, so with one trigger finger you can only hunt with one gun ata time and defend yourself with one gun at a time. Cars, your right having 8 of them on average like guns and gun owner, Is stupid. Is that your point.

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    Yes absolutely it is best to keep matches out of the hands of children, is that your point
     
  11. jbander

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    Were in this comment is a point that is relative to the gun issue , matches and children and outlawing matches. Free will , what the hell that could mean. and not being responsible for your kid over 18.
     
  12. OrlandoChuck

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    What do you care how many firearms someone has. They can only be a threat to you with one.

    Shotgun for birds
    Another shot gun for skeet
    A pistol caliber carbine for home defense.
    A deer rifle.
    A varmint rifle
    A small game rifle
    A compact carry gun.
    A uspsa handgun
    An idpa gun
    That's 9 that all have individual purposes that none of the others are suited for. I could go on but you get the idea.
     
  13. jbander

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    First we have to start with your name, dam thats a good name. Yup that was my story from a different side of the issue. I needed a permit to carry, so me and my brother in law decided to take the class. We got there and the class was divided into three parts. The first 1/3 was a lecture on the idea that Democrats wanted to take away every gun in this country. Then we moved onto the second 1/3, actually this part took up more then 1/3 of the time. He gave us a lecture on Christianity and Jesus.
    During this class we listened to the conversation and questions from the dozen people that were there between them and the instructor. I mean these clowns shouldn't be allowed to have a dog license, what a group of country cowboys.If you would need a intelligence test to be able to get a permit to carry none of these people including the instructor, would be allowed a permit .. Me and my brother were just about cracking up but figured we had to hang on because this guy already had our money. So we went to shoot our guns. The one that had the permit to carry the longest, he was there for his 3rd class to keep the permit legal. He went into the shooting range and opened his gun case, brought the gun out and pointed it directly at me. The instructor yelled at him and cowboy dude turned to the instructor pointing the gun at him.
    We got are paperwork and left, we got out to our cars and my brother in law got into his truck and I told him , boy are we in trouble, he nodded back, he totally agreed.
    There were two people in that class that should be allowed to have a permit to carry, me and my brother in law, not even the instructor should be allowed to have one.

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    If these cowboys would have gone onto this guys property without a gun , he wouldn't have a complaint would he?
     
  14. Ethos

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    Ok... however in reality, you know, the actual world we live in and not one of unicorns and stuff.... you're not going to get 400+ million guns off the street. The government can't find 20+ million illegal Mexicans, and you think they're going to get 400+ million firearms? That's an unbelievably childish though that has no rationality to it. The government WILL NEVER succeed at taking away the firearms in the country, never. Even if Obummer made firearms illegal to have, you wouldn't get half of the legally owned ones, and none of the criminals care about laws so........ all a blanket ban would do is take the firearms from the hands of the law abiding citizens while the criminals kept theirs. So that's just a retarded idea to even think of. You need to stop thinking of this idea, it's NEVER going to happen. So, in the real world where the rest of us live, we try to think up things that would actually help. We don't care about unicorns.

    So, just take whatever gun ban, gun take back, or whatever else and shelf it. It's not an argument for fixing our country as it will literally never happen. Come up with other ideas.

    Also, people would still kill people if (magically) guns went away. I don't know why you guys always bring random (*)(*)(*)(*) like that up. People have been killing other people since... well.... people have walked the earth. Firearms have absolutely nothing to do with people murdering each other, guns are just tools. That's just like saying the firearm is responsible for suicide... which is absolutely moronic. What about the other half of suicides that took place using a quick drop with a fast stop, or a rope, or cutting tool, or pills.... or.... you get the picture. What about the other murders around the world where firearms weren't used? My point is, firearms are just tools, not some magically evil thing that make people bad..... that's a childish notion that even my 5 year old doesn't believe. Grown ups should stop believing that nonsense also.

    I will say just for your sake however... if there were no firearms, no one die from gunshot wounds. < It's a technicality. If there were no cars, people wouldn't die in auto accidents. < Whoa... another technicality. Since cars kill more people than firearms, and injure way way more, we should just ban cars also. Do you see how stup!d those kind of ideas are? Childish arguments have no place in a grown up world.
     
  15. jbander

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    No he shouldn't he should use his constitutional right to do anything legal from stopping people like you from having a gun.
     
  16. jbander

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    Read closer 40% said they got there guns illegally. So whats the opposite of illegally, ok when you figure that out ,what is missing out of a 100% when 40% is defined as illegal. I'll give you a few days to figure that out.
     
  17. Ethos

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    Seriously? This is about as rational of a response as I'd expect from a lib I guess.... You know absolutely 0 facts I take it too. Are you one of those left wing nuts that said the dentist that shot that lion, should die? I mean, it's around that same kind of mentality... completely irrational and illogical. From posts like this and others that post the same kind of stuff, I know posters with blanket ideas are not mentally fit to own a firearm.
     
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    What you need to know, is that he responds to opinions from blogs and sites that post up 0 facts better than factual numbers posted by our own government...... Ya, I don't get it either.
     
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    You just have to chuckle, when someone comes and tries to sell a point by a silly list of what a gun can be used for. Look at that list. Thats a gas.
     
  20. Ethos

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    LOL How about "If we all had a Pegasus, we wouldn't need cars! Stop pollution!".

    You know, because they're both just as realistic as one another.
     
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    Well we have been brought through outlawing matches and spoons because They are use to make you fat and now cars. Arguments with massive appeal to someone one who thinks at a specific level. I like the spoon one the best.
     
  22. Maccabee

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    It's a useful list. Who are you to judge why I need more than one gun? Or how about this? Who am I to tell you you only need one car, tv, computer, no more than a day's worth of food in the house, clothes?
     
  23. Ethos

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    Well, how young? My 5 year old has been using matches for about a year now... I'm not worried though about him though. I actually do a good job at parenting, something most people lack these days. This is the problem with most of society now though, morons raising an even dumber generation.
     
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    I guarantee it's quite the opposite.
     
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    I have found that having discussions with most liberals is like talking with a really young child.... I mean really, no rationality, no logic, and doesn't get a good analogy. Yet... gets to make irrational analogies and brings unrealistic thoughts into conversations that are supposed to be based on facts. I don't mind though, kids prepare me for those liberals, and those liberals give me practice for dealing with kids.
     

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