Homosexuality absent religion?

Glenn Beck dies belong to a rather loopy religous cult

I stated it to you in a previous post.

No, it's any group that has a confirmation bias and refuses to evaluate any science that may not affirm their antecedently held beliefs.

You'll have to remind me.

Corrilation does not equal causation.

Again you'll have to remind me.

Still not relevant.

I repeat. the point is the disease infects largely heterosexuals"

 

Traditional marriage, like ownership of the bride or the joining of two houses for political security? No, you want to pick the timeline that suits you.

This perfect world y'all envision, too bad we lose parents to illness accident and death. So after they lose their spouse we should turn around and punish them further because it doesn't fit your narrative...

You didn't

Illnesses are not caused by homosexual unions and children do not only exist in this perfect world where they have a secure home with a loving biological mother and father. I know some of you seem to be detached from reality but wow

 

Not really. Something can remain but be in obscurity.

Since homosexuality became mainstream HIV/AIDS skyrocketed. That's not to say that homosexuality is the sole cause of the diseas but it still affects them the hardest. Historically homosexuality was mostly attributed to pedohpilia.

http://www.gaystarnews.com/article/truth-about-sexuality-ancient-greece-and-rome261012/

 

And you have evidence that they don't? While fruit flies aren't as smart as us humans they do in fact make chioces. They choose which fruit to land on for example.

 

HIV exists largely in heterosexual populations per-capita worldwide with the exception of several first world nations. If you believe homosexuals are the primary vector why are you wanting to destroy their unions - it looks like you would be advocating the opposite.

As for your pedophilia claim - pedophiles are attracted to children, not gender. Boys are more readily accessible than girls. So most of the victimization occours againt boys.
The vast majority of assailants self identify as heterosexual with no same sex attraction. In many cultures girls must be "preserved" or they make the man unclean - that leaves only boys and they in no way consider this a homosexual act.

 

Corrilation is not causation.

 

this has no bearing on what i said. I did not imply anything to elicit this response.

 

You spoke about traditional American values. I did as well.

I however don't disagree that it seems trendy to take pot shots at christianity

 

So if there are two apples on a plate and one is ripe and the other is rotten which one would you choose?

You would choose the ripe apple because you want it to taste nice.

A female fruitfly will avoid both apples if neither has the right amount of ethanol and lay it's eggs in a drain or a trash container or old rags instead because that is where the ethanol level is optimal for laying it's eggs.

So does choosing to lay eggs in a drain instead of an apple make a fruitfly sentient or is it just responding to the correct level of stimuli as to where it should lay it's eggs?

 

I think he is confusing sentient with sapient

http://www.rebekkahniles.com/2012/03/word-box-sapience-vs-sentience.html?m=1

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I think he is confusing sentient with sapient

http://www.rebekkahniles.com/2012/03/word-box-sapience-vs-sentience.html?m=1

 

Who the hell cares? If you don't like it don't f'n do it. I know I won't. I don't think I'd be able to get aroused. But with 7B people on the planet, and most all creatures, there is some percent that are attracted to same sex.
Any sex that isn't done in the dark, under covers is a perversion to some. Perversion is a subjective opinion.

 

Being anti christian, IMO, is because the holier than thou sinners like to judge based on some moral opinion. Some don't care for their opinion and certainly if they want to discriminate or make them less than equal to others just because of their perverted opinion.

 

This nation was founded upon violating religious dogma and social taboos. Religion decreed that kings had a divine right to rule over their subjects albeit with their consent otherwise they were replaced with another king. It was a social taboo to speak ill of the king and to defy him in any way at all.

So the founding and subsequent history of this nation has been one of overturning the religious and social "morality" that caused oppression and instead ensuring that everyone was equal under the Law of the Land. There was no liberty and pursuit of happiness when our fellow Americans were enslaved. There is actually no difference in the emancipation of women and gay marriage. Freedom OF religion cannot exist without freedom FROM religion.

All of these concepts take time to evolve which is why the founding fathers ensured that the constitution would continue to recognize these rights and freedoms for We the People. They understood that it would evolve over time and that there would be opposition but that the structure was such that it would adjust to accommodate these rights, freedoms and liberties over time.

Was it an aberration in society to free the slaves?

Was it an aberration in society to allow women to vote?

Was it an aberration in society to allow gays to marry?

Since all of the above fall under the same concept that everyone is EQUAL under the Law of the Land the answer is no, it was not an aberration at all. Instead it was society growing to accept that equality is not something that only white heterosexual males have and that is denied to everyone else.

 

Like religious bigots. That would be a great start.

 

Good point!

Thank you.

 

I am willing to tolerate perversions. But I'll be d*mned if I have to celebrate them, which is the demand of homosexual activists.

 

LOL. Where have you had to celebrate someone elses perversions? Please show us all.

Speaking of celebrating one's perversions, why do christians get so upset when others don't want to celebrate their perversions? Like christmas? Are certain christians being hypocritical?

 

If you tell a Christian happy holidays it is an attack on their religion but them telling people they are unable to purchase goods or sign a legal contract is perfectly a ok - and anyone that disagrees is attacking their religion... I'm starting to notice a pattern...

 

You don't have to. And they can demand it. They just can't force you to do it. You don't have to like them because of that. But they shouldn't have to shut up because you don't like what they say.

 

I am unfamiliar with those Christians.

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And yet homosexuals demand that naysayers shut up by accusing them of hate speech.

 

Yet the naysayers don't. Seems it's rather childish than doesn't it? Further is what you're saying actually hate speech?

Opinion based strictly on emotion maybe, but I don't see hate. I see stereotyping, and generalizations in your statements as well but I don't see hate.

Do you see it in your own words? If not why would you worry about people saying that? Obviously they are just trying to justify not listening to you. It also let's them not feel guilty about taking it too far.

The argument is dominated by people calling one side of it perverts and the other side calling them bigots. Aren't there people other than perverts and bigots?

 

Seems to me homosexuals are afraid of opposing views. Homosexuals demand their lifestyle be accepted and condoned. I was just banned from a thread here. That's proof enough to me. If the homosexual can't compete in an argument, their alternative is usually shut up the Christian. Just saw it happen. The fact you had the last word and then I tried to post to find out I had been banned from the thread. Doesn't take a genius to see the corruption here.

 

Well, I'm homosexual and I'm not afraid of opposing views.

Again I'm homosexual and I don't demand such things.

So you didn't violate a rule? Are you suggesting the moderators are gay or controlled by gays? I've been given an infraction.

Well, I had nothing to do with that. As you can see, I want to talk to you. I was the person who posted on the thread you started.

 

Yes, you are afraid of opposing views. That's my opinion. Rules are often used by homosexuals to control the opposition, not to provide for fair discourse. I wasn't born yesterday.

 

Well I'm not and that's a fact.

Alas you are entitled to your opinion and I can't prove that I wasn't the reason you were thread banned, so I guess we can only do this through conversation.