Homosexuality absent religion?

Discussion in 'Gay & Lesbian Rights' started by ARDY, Dec 9, 2016.

  1. Maxwell

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    I've experienced that tactic too often to believe otherwise.
     
  2. Polydectes

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    I don't doubt it, but like I said, I can't prove it to you so I see no real point in talking about it. You either believe me or you don't.
     
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    Okay. Let's move on.
     
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    Ready when you are.
     
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    You are unfamiliar with anyone being forced to celebrate perversions? I thought so. But confirmation is good.
     
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    It's not corruption. It's just persecuting you for being christian.
    That's the normal complaint anyhow.
    But a true christian wouldn't say things that get a ban, they would be more jesus like.
     
  7. Maxwell

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    Really? Gee, Jesus was very "Jesus like" and ya'll crucified him. Sell that crap to some naive college kids.
     
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    WTF, ya'll? And according to the religion, he had to be crucified, or god would be a liar.
    You naive or somtin?
     
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    My point Jesus offended people like you just by his words. Innocent righteous people are punished by people with an unrighteous agenda every day, so your point isn't credible.
     
  10. Polydectes

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    So, I haven't attacked you for your views, not once, despite you making personal comments about me. I haven't said that you are not christian, I haven't even said you're wrong. I merely posted an opposing view point and that I disagree with yours.

    I certainly haven't demanded you accept my sexual orientation nor have I demanded you condone it.
     
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    I've pointed out your denial of fact. That's permissible. It's a fact the Bible condemns homosexuality. You can't deny that, yet you do. That's called dishonesty. I'm not demanding that you believe the Bible, but when you claim it doesn't say what it says, then I have an issue with your honesty.
     
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    I've heard you and i did so respectfully. I don't agree with you, so how am I afraid of your view points?

    I don't deny anything. I simply disagree with you. It seems you have an issue with opposing view points.

    I'm going to claim it doesn't condemn homosexuality regardless of your issues. That isn't disrespect for you that's simply an opposing view point.

    You admit that you have an issue with opposing view points, of course you believe your view points are undeniable facts which is obstinate bias. Further you think you can tell me what I put in my heart.

    So are you really just upset because I don't agree with you?
     
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    You disagree with reality, not me or my view. The bible clearly precisely condemns homosexuality in the old and new testament, according to definitions of Greek and Hebrew words that bible scholars agree on, not my opinion. That's not my niew or opinion. Intellectual dishonesty on your part.
     
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    So how am I "afraid of opposing view points" if you don't mind?
     
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    How am I afraid of your viewpoints? I heard them, i wasn't disrespectful, I debated like an adult. I didn't even say you were wrong.
     
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    Pretty ridiculous point. Jesus' words don't offend anyone. It's others interpretations of his words, like yours. Who mostly get them wrong.
     
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    So fear is expressed through having a polite respectful conversation with someone but not agreeing with their opinion?
     
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    Once again, not my opinion. Scholarly hermeneutics.
     
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    It also condemns hypocrites and adulterers and all other sins and sinners. That is the truth.
     
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    I disagree.

    Further how is that a manifestation of fear?
     
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    I agree. Adulterers, murderers, liars, homosexuals, thieves, covetous, etc. We're all sinners that need forgiveness and sin no more. You're right on.

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    Disagree all you want. Doesn't change the truth.
     
  22. Polydectes

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    That is irrelevant to the question I've asked.
     
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    And until one sins no more, they shouldn't judge another's sins. Take care of one's own, so to speak.
     
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    Not judging, just quoting the Bible.
     
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    I never see adultery threads. Which is far more abundant in society than gay.
    I never see hypocrite threads either. Which is also far more abundant.
    Why all the focus on about 3% of sin when there is much more other sins to worry about.
    Again, one should stop all their sinning 1st, else they are just hypocrites.
     

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