Homosexuality absent religion?

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  1. Maxwell

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    Start one on adultery. I'll post in it. The homosexual mafia has targeted Christian businesses. Mind your own business and we'll mind ours.
     
  2. dairyair

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    That would be nice. But, alas, it was some businesses who thought it would be alright to break the laws in their state.
    Being christian, doesn't mean they are immune to the laws of state and country, in ever case.

    Those business owners are some of the biggest hypocrites in the christian world. They want to discriminate against gay but never hear them say I won't do business with one going into a 2nd or more marriage. Who would most likely be an adulterer in biblical terms.

    You start the adultery thread. I'm not gonna hate or discriminate on adulterers or gays.
     
  3. Maxwell

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    But you'll hate and discriminate against Christians, huh. Christians have the constitutionally protected right to their beliefs. Hollering "discrimination" doesn't trump a constitutionally protected religious right. You can't force people to violate their conscience. This is America.
     
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    There is no constitutionally protected right to discriminate as a business. And some states have a law forbidding it.
    If one can't follow the law, they don't belong in business to the general public.
    They just like practicing hypocrisy. As I said, they don't bother with discriminating against adulterers. For which they could because there is no adulterer protected class.

    And being a former christian with most all my family and friends being christian, your failure at projection on me, is worthless.
    But I assume it makes you feel better about yourself trying to know the minds of others. Makes up for ones own shortcomings, I guess.
     
  5. Maxwell

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    You can't pass a law that overrides a constitutionally protected right to religious conscience. You can't force an American citizen to violate their religious beliefs.
     
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    And none have been done. The fines were handed out to businesses, not religions.
    You are free to hate all you want. But if the hate breaks a law, then you lose your religious right.
    One can't kill a gay because their religion says it's ok. At least in the USA.
     
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    It's not hate to refuse to violate your religious beliefs by force. How ridiculous. No different than Nazis forcing Jews out of business because of they are Jews. The homosexual leftist mafia are the haters, just like Nazis.
     
  8. dairyair

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    They violate their religious beliefs everytime one of those businesses did the same business with adulterers that they refused to do with gays.
    You and they lost. You are not free to discriminate at will to certain groups of people. How ridiculous.

    If you can't follow the law, as I said, don't go into business.
    And as I also said, one can't kill a gay because their religion says it's ok to do so. So yes, laws will trump some religious beliefs that break the laws.
     
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    And they aren't. The government has made accomadation laws that I think violate the right to associate with whom you wish. But it isn't a religious issue. If your religion days you can't sell a certain type of cake to homos, and you just happen to lube in a place thay dais you can't discriminate against homos, find another business, location, or religion. You don't have to give up your religon to find a business that suits it.
     
  10. Maxwell

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    You didn't quote my entire post. It's a complete thought. Attacking Christian businesses and shutting them down in the name of discrimination is no different than the Nazis shutting down Jewish businesses in Nazi Germany. Tye Nazis were socialists as are the current democrats. Congratulations. Democrats are the new fascists.
     
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    Disagree. When the homo demands a cake be made that violates the Christian belief, the homo should take his business to a bakery willing to accommodate him.
     
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    Should that homo be forced to serve that same Christian or is the discrimination a one way street?
     
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    Which part of the bible forbids commerce with homosexuals?
     
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    I've learned that many people who are hateful use terms like "homo"; certainly that is 'sinful' and not of Christ.

    Regards and goodbye, Maxwell.
     
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    No, not even close.
    No businesses are being targeted and shutdown. They chose themselves to shutdown.
    They broke the law, and rather than comply, they chose to shutdown.

    You aren't answering all my posts, so I don't bother with answering all yours.
    My comparison of killing gays being illegal, no matter what one's religion is a valid comparison. One can't break a law just because they feel they have some religious right.
    And those same hypocrites don't discriminate against adulterers. A far bigger number of people sinning than gays. So they're just picking and choosing who to discriminate against and their religious belief holds no water because they can't be consistent.

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    When a business says that but the next couple in line are getting married again for the 2nd or more time, they are likely adulterers in biblical terms. Yet, the baker willing sells to those sinners. Hypocrites.
     
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    Yep, it is a one-way street. Homosexuality isn't protected by the US Constitution. Never has been until America degenerated to its present state of insanity. I don't believe in mistreating anyone, though. Your sexual lifestyle is not a protected constitutional right. Fact. Sorry.j
     
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    Read post #360. That post was written by a homosexual and I was replying in like manner. Try again, lol.
     
  18. Maxwell

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    None. Freedom of conscience is permitted in the New Testament.

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    Wrong. Businesses are being targeted and shut down deliberately. Homosexuality is a lifestyle. Divorce happens for many reasons, but it's not a daily lifestyle.
     
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    The courts disagree
    The only insanity is allowing people that believe in one out of 1000 versions of sky demons to propagate law

    Religion is a plague
     
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    There is no Christian belief that forbids making baked goods. Lol
     
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    They have been protected since the 14th amendment was ratified.
     
  22. Maxwell

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    You should familiarize yourself with the case so you get up to speed and can adequately defend your position.
     
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    Nope. The 14th amendment was concerning ex slaves and their descendants. It's been abused and twisted by political activists to mean something entirely different than intended.
     
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    So what is the objection?

    Legally speaking I think the business should be allowed to deny service to any one they choose for any reason. It's just that the religious excuse to me is malarkey.

    Further it's an attempt to say laws that infringe of your rights to your business also infringe on your religious rights. That approach has never worked in the past.
     
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    I understand that some judges, courts, lawmakers, and bureaucrats are corrupt.
     

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