House Speaker Nancy Pelosi says socialism is ‘not the view’ of the Democratic Party

Not Fire and police, but every other City service should be.

 

Corporations can do it better? (healthcare, social security, etc.)

 

The Dem party leadership always does this sort of thing. Either their radicals temporarily gain too much influence in the party or the leadership relaxes controls; and then the radicals tell the TRUTH to the nation regarding the true plans and end goals of the party itself.

The leadership however KNOWS that the only reason they retain influence in this nation is by LYING in regards to their true intentions and goals and so they clamp down on their radicals -- so far as public statements are concerned -- and then collectively return to lying to the nation in regards to what the party truly intends to do.

No lying then no Dem Party. It's politically fundamental in nature regarding to how the Left retains power and influence. So all Nancy is doing is trying to reassert control over the party's truth-telling radicals. If this time it's not too late.

 

Contracts can be terminated and or not renewed. Government employees are are a till death prospect.

 

Our privatized nursing home (for old people) was disaster in Finland. Now people are looking for public system again, but private sector is still running under magnifying glass like over watch. I guess that situation is here side-by-side, but public nursing home is a bit better choice for now. Main problem here was too few nurses (they wanted save money, typical greed ruined it).

 

Actually, the argument seems to be over what is considered socialism.

For example, many on the left think the interstate highway system is evidence of socialism.

I would guess the reason for such broad "interpretations" is to help argue for more "socialism" as suggested in the OP, and curiously denied by Nancy.

There is no question the Democratic party has become the New Democratic Party, where "socialism" in it's most common definition, is a foundational principle

 

Tell that to AOC---at least 68 Democrats are following her lead including Schiff and his shadow Swalwell and Gabbard and vote with her 95% of the time. That is about one-fourth of the House Dems. Now THAT is scary.

 

The facts suggest otherwise, hence the creation of what is now the New Democratic Party.

Most new sources, even those closely aligned and in partnership with the NDP talk about the hard move to the left.

https://freebeacon.com/politics/cnns-cuomo-dont-know-room-cuomo-biden-dem-party/

CNN host Chris Cuomo said Wednesday that he is not sure there is room in the Democratic Party for more centrist politicians like his brother, New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo, or former Vice President Joe Biden as the party moves further to the left.​

 

Schiff is not extreme left. The facts are that the Trumpers shifted the political spectrum to the hard right. A Schiff is just left of center.

 

The fight against Fabian Socialists like Cotter Pin and his call in "Why Not the Best" for a “practical and comprehensive national health program,” did not start with him, it goes WAY back:

May 1, 1935: "To the extent necessary to carry out the provisions of this Executive Order the Administrator is authorized to acquire, by purchase or by the power of eminent domain, any real property or any interest therein and improve, develop, grant, sell, lease (with · or 'without the privilege of purchasing), or otherwise dispose of any such property or interest therein."
Read more at the American Presidency Project: Franklin D. Roosevelt: Executive Order 7027 Establishing the Resettlement Administration. http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/?p...#ixzz1WF7IYFdf

Pine Mountain Valley Resettlement Project
http://georgiainfo.galileo.usg.edu/...ris/pine-mountain-valley-resettlement-project

“This Timberline Lodge marks a venture that was made possible by W.P.A., emergency relief work, in order that we may test the workability of recreational facilities installed by the Government itself and operated under its complete control.” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timberline_Lodge#Film_history


I know about those two because my father lived in the barn of one that got a free farm, where he plowed their fields at 12 years old looked at the stars though the hole in the roof, when the old man died in the 70's my father took me there and I saw the picture of FDR over the mantel. Then after the farm my father pulled a cross cut saw at 14 years old for the W.P.A., in that “test” of “the workability of recreational facilities installed by the Government itself and operated under its complete control.”

What part of "recreational facilities installed by the Government itself and operated under its complete control" does not fit government ownership and control of the principle means of [recreational facility] production?

 

Govt should protect everyone but not educate everyone?

 

No it because republicans call everything socialism from public school to taxes in general. If socialism is only the public ownership of th means of production then food stamps aren’t even socialism.

 

Not true.

The New Democratic Party is most certainly moving towards what has been historically considered socialist policies.

 

The dumb barista and terrorist sympathizer are Democrats, not Republicans.

 

Like public education? Tariffs?

 

It is the Democratic party that were led by an IMBECILE (Obama) and now are led by a IMBECILE (Pelosi).

 

What do those have to do with socialism?

I'm referring to living wages, free college, single payer healthcare, etc...

 

And it also has meaning in using the proceeds of taxes (direct or indirect profits of capitalism) to fund Social Programs.

When you pool your money together to help the community (of which not everyone may benefit) that's also a form of socialism.

It's almost like it's an over-arching term that has varying degrees.

 

This exactly and Leftists know they are screwed.

Their party got completely taken over by Leftists and now they can't get the support they need.

I don't think 2020 is going to be nearly as close as some think

 

No, Leftists are just trying to paint it that way

It is very obvious that peoplea re pushing for huge socialist controls, the Dems are trying to walk things back by saying

What kind of socialism are you talking about?"

It's all just a slight of hand, the American people know what "Socialism" means and apparently so does Nancy Pelosi.

This is going to be a huge problem for Dems going forward and I think she see's that. They keep having to sick their media on everyone, screaming:

"This is not Socialism!"

and

"It's Democratic Socialism!"

We the Peopole see the lies, it aint workin

 

Single payer gubt healthcare certainly is. Obozocare is just the precursor to single payer. Sanders is all about socialized medicine. There's no denying it. Anyone who disagrees with that either lives in a bubble or is an outright liar.

 

What poor, old Nancy may not realize is that the Democrat Party has "evolved"!

That whole "Socialism" thing is, like, so 'old school'.... Today? The Democrat Party can't be bothered with boring crap like manufacturing, production, and systemic distribution. No -- what's important to a Democrat Party highlighted by such mentalities as those of Corey Booker, Kamalah Harris, Ocasio-hypenation, and the other morons is simple GOVERNMENT HANDOUT WELFARE -- FOREVER!

Is this whole sickening, dysfunctional neo-Socialism thing starting to remind anybody but me of Orwell's masterpiece, "1984"...?

. "So, dude, like, I mean, what would be so bad about bein' a Prole anyway...?"

 

What is your definition of "hard right"?

In the 1980s, gay marriage was an outrageous concept rejected by nearly everybody, "white privilege" was not a thing, and openly bashing on whites and masculinity were not tolerated in the MSM.

It is now "extreme right" for whites to object to being negatively stereotyped, where careers are ended when data/facts are used to explain the lack of women in some occupations, where it is hateful to oppose boys pretending to be girls and then annihilating girls in athletic competitions. etc.... The clown world many liberals live in is so completely divorced from reality that they have defined anybody who doesn't share all of their beliefs to the letter as a Nazi (roughly 50% of the nation is brownshirts according to their definitions).

 

I only wish!

I could have crushed it, just by going with the S&P 500 for my Social Security, but I likely would have chosen annuities. I would much more prefer to get a private investment return of 7%-10% that I am used to than the meager 1% the Federal Government offers.

On Medicare, you do realize it is consistently going broke too? It's simply generational theft.

 

Which of those is govt controlling the means of production?