How Does the Price of Gas Effect YOUR budget?

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  1. red states rule

    red states rule New Member Past Donor

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    and like the Chevy Volt, all the taxpayers have to show for it is a bigger balance on the nations credit card they need to pay
     
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    You know what a conspiracy is? A conspiracy is idiotically saying that "Obama" and the "Democrats" have caused gasoline prices to increase, when in actuality, it's way more complicated than that.

    I think gas prices are artificially expensive due to corporate meddling with the government, however.
     
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    That didn't directly address the post you replied to, but ok.
     
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    The main point I have is that alcohol is renewable. Big Fossil Fuel is not. It took millions of years for fossil fuels to develop naturally. Alcohol can be continuously created in mass quantities.

    THAT is why ultimately, alcohol will be consistently far LESS EXPENSIVE than Big Fossil Fuel-and that is, IT WON'T RUN OUT!!

    When oil runs out, it will be INFINITELY EXPENSIVE because it won't exist.
     
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    Government should get out of the way and let the oil companies do what they do best.

    Find, drill, pump, and refine as much oil as they possibly can

    Open up all areas to drilling and fire up the oil rigs
     
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    Oil is not going to run out

    That has been yelled by some folks for decades and yet more and more reserves are being found
     
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    So we can sell it all abroad, for profit, as we watch gas prices climb regardless. The only beneficiaries of doing what you suggest will be the ghostly investors.
     
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    It's NOT going to run out? You have a source for that assertion?
     
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    umm..you do realize that there is only so much oil on planet Earth, right?
     
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    Ok, fine. But Big Fossil Fuel should get out of government, too. If they did, they wouldn't have a well-nigh monopoly on the energy sector.
     
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    Like most companies when the government get out of the way, the companies wil not have to pay protection money to them and lobby for their own self interests
     
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    Do you have a source for 'peak oil' other than 'because we say so?'
     
  15. DeathStar

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    Big Fossil Fuel LOVES Big Government. So yes, government leaving would help.

    It would also help if we had more people in the world, like me, that don't have the "fossil fuels are the only energy source that can be economical" delusion.
     
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    So all those reserves have been tapped including AWAR?

    Keep trying to tell us the end is near - that is realy all you have left to try and defend Obama for the high gas prices

    Why were you libs not so understanding like this during the Bush years?

    Is is that "R" at the end of Bush's name that makes all the difference?
     
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    Oil requires millions of years to develop naturally. We either have to create it artificially (which, we don't; we merely extract/transport it), or it will run out due to the basic (*)(*)(*)(*)ing algebraic function called "subtraction".
     
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    Right now it is the only energy source that can be economical" delusion

    You can't change a 16 Trillion dolar economy that runs on oil to something else overnight

    With the private sector, if another energy source somes long that works, someone will bring it to market
     
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    You don't need to change it overnight. You DO need to start implementing other technologies to begin the with drawl from big oil's teet. The oil fat cats don't want that to happen though.They like it just the way it is....pigs in mud. opposing new technology at every angle.
     
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    That's only if, again, and I repeat:

    1. Big Fossil Fuel (especially Big Oil) and the government leave each other alone, which, they probably never will, and

    2. more people like me realize the significance of getting off of fossil fuel dependence.

    A lot of people, especially probably in the near future, will realize that we need an alternative energy source(s) soon, so 2. isn't unrealistic. But 1. is probably VERY unrealistic.
     
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    It would take alot for anyone to get the government out of the private sector. That is where the so much of the R's and D's protection money is raised

    and the more government regulations are put on the private sector (and Obama has jacked that up bigtime) the more protection money that needs to be paid

    It is a never ending cycle
     
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    I agree with you completely and whole-heartedly on all of that. But we all need to realize that Big Fossil Fuel (especially Big Oil), and Big Car/Big Car Insurance, are just as guilty as the government, for paying the government to eliminate competition for them.

    Take the Big Car Insurance example. I'm FORCED to pay for car insurance whether I want to or not. If I weren't FORCED to pay for car insurance or else be FORCED to not drive, then car insurance would be WAY less expensive AND WAY better, because car insurance companies would have to lower their prices and increase their quality, to attract customers. They don't have to worry about having to make customers VOLUNTARILY pay for their services currently, because customers are FORCED to pay for their services or else not drive. That is a HORRIBLE example of tyranny that's been going on for..since whenever that policy began.
     
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    You ned car ins in case you cause harm to someone else or their property. You can choose not to drive

    But yes, the government needs to get out of the way and allow free and open competition among the ins companies. Let car ins companies sell accross state lines and the price will come down
     
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    What if I don't want car insurance? The government forces you to have car insurance or else not drive. That is WRONG.

    If we weren't forced to pay for car insurance, car insurance companies would have to become BETTER so they could ATTRACT, rather than FORCE, people into buying their services. They'd have to become less expensive and/or get better coverage.

    Big Car is only so expensive because the government FORCES you to have an "authorized vehicle".
     
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    Then walk, take a cab or bus

    If you hit me and you have no ins, who is going to pay for my damages and medical care (if needed)

    If you want to ower the cost of car ins, let the market operate freely and allow the companies to sell across state lines

    as they should with health ins
     

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