How long should someone be tortured?

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How long should someone be tortured before they have payed for their sins?

  1. Torture? I thought Jesus taught to forgive.

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  2. The punishment should fit the crime. Eye for an eye.

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  3. Make the sinner pay for at least 100 years.

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  4. Make it 1000 years.

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  5. A million years.

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  6. A billion years.

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  7. A trillion years.

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  8. A googleplex should just about do it.

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  9. Any reprieve is a sign of weakness. I'm talking infinte baby!

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  1. DarkDaimon

    DarkDaimon Well-Known Member

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    So the Bible tells us "eye for an eye". If someone hurts you, then they should be hurt in return, but how much hurt is appropriate? Should the punishment be equal to the crime? Do we seek punishment greater than the crime? The reason for asking is the whole concept of Hell. So I've been a bad boy and I've committed sins. Not a lot, just enough to send me to hell. So now, not only do I not get to see my loved ones ever again but now I am being tortured. Since the details of Hell are not given, I don't know what kind of tortures await from me. Do bigger sinners receive bigger tortures? In any case, so here I am being tortured for my sins. My issue is that regardless of sins I have committed and what torture I receive, it is for ALL ETERNITY! Let's think about that for a moment. Even if my torture was something simple like being hungry or having to constantly work, this is FOREVER. There is no parole, there are no commuted sentences there is no hope for anything else. You can't even kill yourself to escape. Being that it is forever, even just sitting staring at a wall would become unbearable after a few million years.

    Is that an appropriate punishment? How about the worse crime you can imagine? Is that an appropriate punishment? How many years should someone be tortured before they reapay their debt?
     
  2. The Wyrd of Gawd

    The Wyrd of Gawd Well-Known Member

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    Someone once said that hell is living in Texas.
     
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    who rules hell? republicans?
     
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    Well of course that was "old" testament. In the "new" testament Jesus refuted that law and said that instead you should turn the other cheek. So much for the consistency of gods laws.
     
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    As long as it takes.
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    Double post....
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    The Wyrd of Gawd Well-Known Member

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    According to the fairy tale when Jesus returns he will kill off all life and destroy the world. It might be a good idea for people to tell him to turn the other cheek and to let bygones be bygones.
     
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    An eye for an eye leaves everybody blind.
     
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    At least one person should end up with one eye.
     
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    LOL! Can you explain why Christians say they actually love such a monster? God of love? Yea right!
     
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    They're caught in a Bad Romance.

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    The idea of eternal torment comes from the religion of "never forgive and never forget", the Talmud.

    That any Christian would tout the existence of eternal life for the wicked, shows that he has Talmudic doctrines in his mind.

    God promised eternal death for sinners who refuse to repent, and eternal life for those that do repent.
     
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    Don't worry, the torture will be over November 6th.
     
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    You are so right. No more political ads and monotonous pre-election coverage! :D
     
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    It depends on the sin or more to the lack of sin. Jesus has washed away our sin, but our works will go rewarded in Heaven. So the more good things we've done the better our outcome in Heaven will be. But some one has not accepted Christ in to their lives they will never get to Heaven, and instead spend an eternity in Hell.
     
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    Why would a rational person want to live forever? He could do absolutely nothing for 100 trillion years and it wouldn't matter one iota because he couldn't die. If life doesn't have a time limit then it doesn't have any value.
     
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    All life will not be killed, It will however all be changed.

    The torture is almost entirely self inflicted. The heat ain't nothing, to that which does not kill you out right you will shortly become enured and you'll wish you hadn't. The hell of hell is largely that you are simultaneously left largely to your own devices, and stripped of all your pretenses and illusions and that is more than any can bear.
     
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    I think the answer that you are looking for may be in Romans 8:18-22. "18 I consider that our present sufferings are not worth comparing with the glory that will be revealed in us. 19 For the creation waits in eager expectation for the children of God to be revealed. 20 For the creation was subjected to frustration, not by its own choice, but by the will of the one who subjected it, in hope 21 that[h] the creation itself will be liberated from its bondage to decay and brought into the freedom and glory of the children of God."

    So, the torture is simply the process of the disassembly of the person, both in body and in soul/spirit. And this will always look infinitely long for the person who is being tortured, because he does not survive it to tell the end, at the end he will be disassembled. And that is the point when you would stop perceiving time, if you existed.

    Why do you deserve your torture/disassembly? Because you too inflict it on others plus you consider it normal. Do you have another choice? No, because then you don't survive. I think those special types of tortures that are actually listed up for Hell in the Bible are for those people who go far beyond their survival at others' expense and refuse to repent about it.
     
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    How long was Jesus Christ Tortured?
     
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    Where did you get that idea? It seems out of the ordinary.
     
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    Which is the bigger misnomer: Yahweh as the God of Love or Islam as the Religion of Peace? :D
     
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    But that's me now :laughing:
     
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    So you believe that hell is nothing but a permanent death? That is what the Jehovah Witnesses believe. I like that belief. Makes more sense. No torture involved, you just don't get to live forever.
     
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    Yeah most of us know how it is supposed to work, however that doesn't answer my question. How long should someone be tortured before they have payed for their sins?
     

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