How many Covid deaths are acceptable

The goal post has been moved from flattening the curve so hospitals are not overwhelmed to "controling" the virus. Those that want to keep the economy down say too many will die if we open it up so I would ask what is your acceptable level of death before opening up the economy. Is it a day when Covid is gone and nobody dies from it? Is it the 1200 per day rolling average of the last three days? Is it far less than that? So put up or shut up. What's your acceptable level of covid deaths per day to have a functioning economy. What's your number?

 

Consistently falling over a two week period to start a rolling open.
Talk to Trump about a moving goalpost - the White House came out with recommendations for re-opening, then promptly
told the States to ignore those recommendations.

 

Dodged the question didn’t you.

How many daily Covid deaths are acceptable to you to have an opened functional economy?

 

Good question. I see things differently. While the loss of one single life is tragic, throwing life away in small pieces is no less tragic. Those most at risk are staying home, and statistically, that is the most dangerous place for seniors. Exercising reduces the risk of falling, so having them stay home may end up much worst than Covid. Factor in loneliness and depression and we may be doing more harm than good.

"And in the end, it's not the years in your life that count. It's the life in your years."
Abraham Lincoln

 

There is no shortage of anti-Trump threads for tantrumps. Perhaps the forum can add a "dodge" button.

 

No, I didn't "dodge" the question. The number of deaths in Maine is going to have a different threshold than what would
be acceptable in Florida, that's why I said that a, "consistently falling number over a two week period ...". What is so
hard to understand about that?

 

I don’t expect a single honest answer to the question posed in the OP which in itself speaks volumes.

 

What do you do when, after opening up, the number of deaths start increasing?

 

Another dodge. The reply to opening up the economy by the left is people will die if we do which begs the question in the OP. The truth is as long as anyone dies from Covid it will be too soon to open the economy for these people.

 

Close the economy down again would be the honest answer that he won’t give.

 

As of today, 80000+ Covid19 deaths in the US.

How many deaths before Dirty Donnie needs to resign ? How many people need to die because of his incompetence ?
Let's go Trump supporters, pick a number.

 

Dodge number two.
Batter up.

 

There probably will be. Again, it will depend on the population, not a specific number. If you get 50 deaths in a town of 5,000 -you got a real problem. If you have 50 deaths in Los Angeles, you probably wouldn't have the same reaction.

Now that we have little better understanding of the rate of infection and death rate, closing down the business community can
be much more targeted and confined.

Would you want to open up the Cruise Line Industry at the same time you open up a car factory?

Do we want to open up schools in hot spots just when we are finding out that the virus might have long term effects on
children? Or would you want to hold off for a few extra weeks to get a better idea?

We are dealing with an unknown virus - not a virus that we know is seasonal, or where we have a pretty good idea of
the long term impact.

I don't have an exact answer as to numbers - just general trends of infection.

I do think it would be far worse to open up - and then have to shut down again. That would be catastrophic for the economy.

 

Let me simplify this for you. Last flu season killed 80,000 people and we didn’t shut the economy down for it so if we got Covid down to where 80,000 people died every few months could we open the economy? Oh wait, we are already there aren’t we. Covid and flu deaths are already about equal.

https://www.statnews.com/2018/09/26/cdc-us-flu-deaths-winter/

 

The difference is that we know the life cycle of the common flu. We know it's seasonal. We know what the residual impact is
going to be. We know the general hospital requirements.

Covid is an unknown. We know that cases are spiking in Brazil right now, even though it's summer down there. That means we don't know if Covid is going to be seasonal. We have some indication that there has been long term kidney damage
and blood clotting problems in survivors of Covid. That's something we don't see in common flu patients.

So you are trying to compare the response to a known seasonal disease with an unknown disease. And when that happens,
it's always fun and games unless it is your loved on the ventilator. Right now, it's just a number game to you.

 

80,000 deaths over winter so why wasn’t the economy shut down for flu season? Just think of the lives that could have been saved.

 

And again, you are comparing a known seasonal illness with an unknown virus.

 

You realize that you made a really bad mistake and close down again

Which is why you shouldn't open up until you have reached at LEAST the targets the White House put out

 

Which flu SEASON are you referring to? I have heard of no FIVE MONTH season with those kinds of numbers

 

Which would have made it far easier and less harmful to the economy to shut it down with a definite expiration date as opposed to the current open ended shutdown

 

What part of "unknown virus" are you having problems with?

 

Which would have made it far easier and less harmful to the economy to shut it down with a definite expiration date as opposed to the current openended shutdown

 

I gave my CDC source

 

What year do you think this is?

 

Does the virus have an expiration date?