How much more of the virus hoax can you take

Yes, I was self employed for thirty years and there were times I went months without a check and times I had to wait months to get paid after filing a workman's lien.Feast or famine is what is dictated to the self employed.

 

Ever since my disability has afflicted me I have been in a stay at home situation since 2011....This pandemic is nothing for me to endure and I have been out doing at least one job a week with no protective masks or social distancing...Yet I am still kicking it, all I need is weed the supply dried up...

 

I see. I feel that standard should be applied to everyone. If the lowest paid in our economy are expected to have 3-6 months emergency reserves or be thought careless and wasteful, then the self-employed should be expected to, as well. Any other opinion is blatant hypocrisy.

 

We just place an order online with the dispensary, and within two days, someone brings it to our door. We're all sorts of good, here. It's really helping.

 

Mizzouri has yet to open a dispensary.

 

So you would be fine if a state made gay marriages illegal but didn’t enforce it in many cases?

 

No idea what you're going on about. The protests have been allowed to take place. Those at the protests have been exercising their constitutional right. Move on.

 

Highly orchestrated, no question.

Probably not as highly orchestrated as 911, no airplanes and such, but close.

It seems likely that A. Fauci rather predicted it in 2017.

 

Your numbers are wrong, I dodged nothing. If you want to play like you are having a discussion try to cut back on the childish remarks and use actual data.

Or we can keep doing this — whichever.

 

That would be fine if the younger people were immune.
They are not — we are seeing spikes from stroke in people in their late 20’s and early 30’s due to the damage to the blood vessels.
Permanent damage most likely

We know very little about this virus — it is dangerous to dismiss it as similar to the flu.

People should be given a choice, I agree — let them reopen with no social distancing and let those people be responsible for their own health.
No government subsidies if they get sick — let people who value their health stay at home.

Let’s see what happens

 

There is also permanent damage for not going back to work. There is no good solution, only less bad ones.

 

Do you think it is less bad to contract a virus that if not outright lethal causes unknown lifelong bodily damage or stay home until the virus is either contained or eliminated — or at minimum we know more about it?

I know which I would pick for myself and my family.

 

That is the way it should be. Make the choice for yourself. Some people will decide it is worth the risk.

 

I can agree with this.
I do not believe the people that decided it is worth the risk should be able to force people that believe it is not worth the risk back to work however.

 

And I do not believe that we should be trying to subsidize your life style to the same extent that it was when you did go to work. We will all have to make sacrifices. Some in the risk they take and some in their lifestyle.

 

No one is subsiding my lifestyle — I didn’t receive a stimulus check and I haven’t ever been on a government program. Can you say the same? Or are you paid to sit at home?

Cute deflection however.

I do agree with the premise however, unemployment should have been capped at 60%-80% up to a maximum and we should have just paused rent, mortgage and utility payments until this ends. People should not be forced to risk infection because you want them to.

 

I am retired and my retirements were paid for with honest work.

Why is it that you have assess motives? My motive is that this country has to get back to work.

 

I for one have lost patience with this hoax: trying to convince fellow citizens that economic activity is more important than their lives.

I’ve lost patience with an administration that’s so lazy they’ve literally thrown up their hands and surrendered.

I’ve lost patience with the deserters and posers roaming our capitols with AR-15’s.

I’ve lost patience with the constant hateful whining and victim playing.

I hate to break it to you all but you’ve got more in common with our meat packers, waiters, and field workers than you do with our billionaires and politicians stoking this ignorant nonsense.

 

What specifically is this 'hoax' you're referring to?

 

I'm done with it... I realize that the precautions I have long had in place to prevent catching the regular ol' flu are sufficient for this one too. If I get it and die, then sobeit, but I am tired of what it is doing to the country, I personally am not particularly affected by it, tho' shopping in the city was a big hassle (which I never liked anyway)

 

No it isn't the end of America. It is just a viral outbreak that occurred in an election year.

 

When history reviews this past three months, it will not be kind to all those so called experts, and China's government will look especially bad.

Already, the numbers we are seeing is the mortality rate for COVID-19, for people under 30, is far less than the seasonal flu. It's about even for the folks 30-40 years old, and only slightly higher for ages 40-50. If these numbers hold up, then we will know how senseless all of this panic was.

We do know that the elderly, 65+ are in the high risk category, and younger people with lowered immune systems and respiratory issues.. They do need to be very careful. But if some of the research on mortality rates holds, the vast majority of people should never have been forced to essentially quit their jobs, and abandon their businesses to stay locked up at home.

 

So it seems, which is probably why we are not seeing the news media break down deaths by age and comorbidity.

 

Especially when there is a dollar amount incentive to classify a death as COVID-19.

 

Trump's not a doctor or epidemiologist, he listened to the experts. What do you expect him to do, ignore them, base upon a hunch that he has?