How Not to React when Your Son Tells You that He's Gay

Good for you- I do much the same, but I treat people with fairness and respect- unless and until they treat me- or others otherwise.

Well I don't like them much myself. Which is what a large portion of my posts are in response to.

Sorry to hear that you are burnt out, but you brought up the accusation that 'gays' lie about what is in the Bible.

I invited you to a discussion regarding that comment because that is a fairly strident claim, and one that I would be tempted to label as 'lies and other dirty rotten tricks', but instead approached you for a rational discussion of the claim.

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I find bigots to be sick people- and they do not think or act with humanity like normal people.

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LOL......the right imagines that there are 'gay recruiters' setting up tables in schools, telling kids all of the benefits of being a minority, that other teenagers routinely beat and torment.

They really believe that BS.

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Do they drive around in Pink Packards with rainbow colored tommy guns?

 

The people in the video are certainly not following the Word of God. Jesus calls us to love one another, as we love ourselves and our Heavenly Father.

For the record, I deplore the actions of the young man's family and the abuse he had to endure; however, this should not be used as propaganda to push the gay entitlement agenda.

 

i know how liberal you are and I don't think I can have a rational discussion on this subject with you.

Sorry.

Yous ee, I've never known liberals toe ver admit they're wrong when they've been proven wrong.

I, however, can if I am truly shown to be if it's done in an open and honest way.

When it comes to homosexuality being wrong in the Bible,or not even existing in the Bible as some claim, that's going to be a very difficult thing to do. You're going against two thousand years of traditions and volumes and volumes and volumes of books on the subject.

But I say if there is truly a god it should be left up to him. He will know who is lieing and who is not. And the Bible does say one of the things god hates is a wicked tongue.

I have no more to say.

 

I see great disrespect FROM his parents. They are scum, truly despicable human trash, and I hope they die in a fire.

 

Well, this family is not even very religious, as the aunt mentioned in the article I recently posted. They used religion as an excuse to hurt their son.

 

LOL, no, they drive Cadillacs. We have the Cadillac Barbie Pride Parade here in Indianapolis and it is a hoot.

http://www.circlecityinpride.org/

 

I am sorry that you let your bigotry get in the way of a discussion.

I have been proven wrong- and acknowledged that before here on PF.

Doesn't hurt at all.

While I make digs at Conservatives, sometimes tongue in cheek, and sometimes just because I am reacting to blatant false claims towards entire groups(Democrats/Liberals/Left/Muslims/Christians/Homosexuals/Blacks etc), what I really think is that most Conservatives and most Liberals are reasonable people who have more in common than not.

Whether it is the audience, or the anonymity, I believe that the viewpoints here on PF are skewed towards extremisms- like your claim that you can't have a rational discussion with a liberal.

I can have and have had reasonable discussions about almost any topic with people from both the Left and the Right. Of course that is rarely the case here on PF.

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Wow- those are some pretty intimidating Gay Mafiosa in those pictures....

 

Well then, you and I have something in common.

We both tend to get facetious with stupidity.

And there is a lot of stupidity on this forum from both sides.

Forum backwards is moruf.

 

So his mother's known he's gay since he was a "tiny little boy" and yet somehow he chose it. Tell me how that works?

 

Thank you, AM, for presenting this story that I studied with great interest. It shows obviously how not to handle such a delicate situation as when a child builds up the courage to tell his parents that he is Gay. What many parents unfortunately do not understand is the situation that 'coming out' presents. When they react in a violent manner against their Gay son many times it can lead to that child's belief that they are obviously not loved anymore so what's the use in living. And when that happens it could lead to their suicide, most unfortunately, as has happened many times. And we just have to ask ourselves is that what the parents really want to happen because it very well may. The lack of sensitivity on the part of parents when hearing a son tell them that he's Gay is a very serious turning point in a family relationship. When the parents are able to accept the child and most importantly tell him that they love him no matter what, then more than 95% of the battle has already been won.

By contrast to the video you have presented, it is important for people to watch and hear the following conversation between mother and son when he decides to tell her about his sexual orientation. KUDOS to the following mother and more mothers all around the world should follow her lead and example.

How You Should React When Your Son Calls to Tell You That He's Gay: VIDEO
http://www.towleroad.com/2014/01/comingout.html

 

I am somewhat disturbed by your violent words. Do you understand the concepts of mercy, understanding, or forgiveness?

 

In all fairness, there is no biological proof that homosexuals are born attracted to the same gender. I invite you to provide an unbiased, peer-reviewed scientific paper stating otherwise.

 

You watched the same video I watched and you're disturbed at MY words??? His parents are sub-human scum trash, unworthy of existing in our society. While I would never take any direct action to harm them, should harm find them, I would not mourn.

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Whether or not they are born that way is not relevant.

 

His mother, obviously not a gay ally, knew he was gay from when he was a "tiny little boy". What does that tell you?

 

That's irrelevant; if that is fact, I invite you to provide me am unbiased, peer-reviewed scientific paper for me to read that proves that homosexuals are "born that way."

 

I disagree. I think it is relevant; it is the main argument homosexual apologists make, in order to substantiate their position on the matter. The young "gay" man (I am still doubting the authenticity of this video) also stated it as fact in the video. So, I ask you, are homosexuals born attracted to the same gender?

 

I could point you to the policy statements of every major, accredited, medical and social scientific body in the Western world but somehow I suspect that wouldn't be enough.

For me, common sense dictates that you can often tell a child is gay long before they know it themselves, this mother appears to agree?

 

MOD EDIT - Off Topic It's not relevant. Whether they are "born" that way, or make a "choice", they are still entitled to be treated as first class citizens, entitled to marry the consenting adult human of their choice, and not be harrassed for their lifestyle.

 

MOD EDIT - Rule 3 Now, on to the thread topic, they are, technically, not legally "entitled" to be treated as "first class citizens." Proof? You're clearly not treating me like one at the present moment. Next, no one is arguing the privilege of secular marriage; however, it is not a right to which to be "entitled." I suppose we can respect them as human beings, but they are also not, technically, "entitled" to that, either. In short, gays are not to be put on a pedestal just because of their sexual preferences; to suggest they are "entitled" to anything you proposed is incorrect. For the third time, I cordially invite you to provide an unbiased, peer-reviewed scientific paper, proving that homosexuals are "born that way."

 

I agree with you. Some people, unfortunately, will never be convinced that there is a rattler right in front of them ready to strike until it does.

Here are some studies that have been conducted (and there would be a lot more) that should serve to exemplify much in trying to establish a basis for same-sex attraction. But I must also say that there would be much more information out in the open discovered by scientists and medical people who have made great discoveries that could prove, unequivocally, that people are Born with a same-sex disposition. However, the sad fact about this is that they can't reveal their findings to the world, as some have said, due to it not being a position many would want to hear, especially churches and leading religious figures, thus, the reality that doing so could seriously compromise their employment and they could be fired from their good jobs for the release of such information.

Study finds genes on X chromosome linked to male homosexuality
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/02/...on-x-chromosome-linked-to-male-homosexuality/

LGBT Science Exploring the origins of sexual orientation and gender identity
http://www.lgbtscience.org/

Geneticist Dean Hamer Testifies In Hawai'i On The Biological Origins Of Homosexuality
http://www.truthwinsout.org/news/2013/11/38001/

 

Nice.

What makes you think the son's well-being is more important than his parents and grandmother?

Just because he's gay doesn't make him special. No matter how much you disagree.

 

What the hell is a 'homosexual apologist'?

As a person who doesn't hate homosexuals, and actually thinks that homosexuals are equal human beings, it doesn't matter whether someone is born heterosexual or homosexual or not.

It does matter to me however that people are treated well regardless of who they are attracted to, or who they end up loving.

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That is mighty white of you.

 

you may be at his feet but he doesn't have to accept you. Just admitting you believe may not be enough. That is only a few christian religions who believe such a thing. Not all. And you may be on the wrong end of the interpretation..

 

Your posts aren't normal and they are sick also.

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So you think sexual preference can change due to trauma? From the gays I've talked to, they had a strong inkling by time puberty hit.

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What would be better is if they took over your neighborhood. Since your posts are so sick.

 

Excuse me? What's THAT supposed to mean, my friend?

Y'know, you lefties always scream, "racism!" Isn't it funny, when one of your own posts a racist comment? I get a kick out of it, really.