How would you reform US gun laws?

For me?

1. Limit magazine capacity on rifles/shotguns to 5 rounds
2. Ban self-loading rifles/shotguns, bolt action and pump action only
3. Compulsory criminal/mental health checks for ALL gun purchases which must be renewed every year.
4. Need a licence for all firearms which must be carried with it.
5. Limit the number of firearms people can own to prevent straw purchases.

 

Good

Add a 10 year minimum mandatory sentence for all violations with life for repeat offenders, massive buybacks etc.

Agreed. I think 3 is best. If you really think you need a gun you need to have your head examined.

 

Ah... I see now...your moniker is supposed to be satire. Got it. Your suggestions won't do crap to fix the actual problems.

 

No, I think these are viable, it means when you do have spree killers it limits the damage they can do, they cannot outgun the police, people with mental health problems and criminal records can at least make it harder for them to obtain weapons if not outright prevent them. Yet people can still own weapons for sport, hunting and self defence. There are already plenty of limits on the type of firearms you can own without violating the second amendment.

 

Your "suggestions" assume that it is the gun that is the problem. Yes, I know, you're trying to "make it harder for the criminals and mentally ill". Common refrain. Problem is that it does not address the core problems. The REASONS that we have so many mentally ill people. The REASONS that people turn to crime. Start addressing those. Then you will not only not need laws targeting inanimate objects, but you'll reduce ALL crime across the board. Not just those that happen to have a gun involved in them.

Fix the problems that people have. You'll fix the problem. That is far more "common sense" than going after an inanimate object based on the actions of less than 1% of the people in the entire country.

 

You cannot diagnose everyone (Charles Whitman for instance) and you can't lock up everything who differs from the norm, 99% of whom are harmless, my reforms would mean that the 1% can do less damage,

 

Me likey.
3. Confuses me.
5. 4 states have laws where you can only buy one gun per month which inhibits the straw purchase business model. (This is from memory) 8% of gun owners have 77% of the guns.
I got other ideas...
6. Only ammo can be sold to a licensed gun owner for the caliber of that gun and no ammo hording (to be negotiated}.
7. To transfer ownership of any firearm the buyer must have a NICS run and form 4473 filled out (could be done online without a FFL). If that gun is used in a crime the last owner would be held liable, if it was not reported stolen.

 

How would I reform gun laws…. I would remove any and all laws that restrict the shall not be infringed part.
Each and every one of the OP’s list is such an obvious infringement on everyone’s
Rights.

It’s not the gun that chooses to kill people. It’s people who choose to kill people.

 

Which gun laws do not "restrict the shall not be infringed part"?

 

You are assuming law abiding legal gun owners are the problem. They are not.

I think we need some new topics around here.

 

They all restrict the shall not be infringed part. That is why I would get rid of all gun laws.

 

Let everyone have guns and then they can whittle down the population while shooting each other, or in other words, just leave things as they are.

 

The number is already less than 1%. That number would drop dramatically if you address core problems.

Also, most crime and mass shootings happen with handguns. Not one of your proposals would help with the whole "do less damage". Assuming criminals even followed your idea on rifles. GL with that. They sure won't with handguns. Then what? You ban all self-loading hand guns? Leave the populace with 6 shooters? (ironically more bullets than your 5 round cap suggestion) What then happens when those are the primary cause of "gun violence"? Ban those also? Leave people with muskets? People will just move onto something else even IF you somehow managed to get rid of all gun ownership. My proposal of addressing the core issues would actually reduce "gun violence" without you having to restrict 99% of the people who are innocent.

 

the only thing I can think of is making it harder to buy ar-15's - maybe raise the age to 21 and have a waiting period

 

That's what I thought you'd say. Gun anarchy. No age restrictions, a violent felon could walk into a gun store and choose, you could order a machine gun online thru Amazon, sounds like a gun lovers dystopia. Wouldn't you be happy.

Uh, you left out how to fix the gun violence problem without touching the guns.

 

Wonderful - new laws that would make current law-abiding citizens into criminals, and then you would like to see drastic penalties harshly enforced. Instead, why not increase the penalties for people who commit crimes while in possession of a gun? And then harshly enforce those? it would be a better way to do it.

Instead of hating on law abiding gun owners and making derogatory statements towards them, how about we spend our energy on hating on criminals and coming up with much more drastic penalties for them?

 

Why not both? People who enable criminals ARE criminals IMO and should be treated as such.

 

That’s what I thought you’d say. Gun grabber. The hell with that stupid constitution. Sounds like gun grabber heaven. Only the thugs and punks and gangbangers would have guns. The hell with honest citizens. Wouldn’t you be happy.

 

I'm afraid you've seized making sense (or never began). How would a world without gun laws make a better world?

 

1. So if you want to kill more than 5 persons you have to reload ...

Humor aside, I'm thinking to how things work in Italy.
I'm a hunter and I can have all the rifles I want. But all weapons are registered and I need a license to own them.
And there are limitations:

I cannot have handguns and when I bring my rifles with me [theoretically I can carry an arsenal in my car!] I have to keep them unloaded.
Bullets have to stay far from the weapons.

In Italy to carry a handgun [a pistol] you need a very special license which is rarely issued.

Probably that's the point: to prohibit to carry loaded weapons and to drastically limit the circulation of pistols.

 

Only if you think guns are the core problems and only read one post of mine.

Why are so many people having mental issues? <--- Core problem.
Why are so many people turning to a life of crime? <--- Core problem.

Once you have the reasons for those you can work on a solution to those problems.

So, what are some of the reasons?

1: A broken education system. It is well documented that the higher a persons education the less likely they will be to commit a violent crime. Possible solution?: Study the top 5 or 10 ranked school systems in the world. Everything from discipline to incentives, class sizes to how students are taught. Discard what we find too extreme or too soft, adjust where needed, implement into our system.

2: Justice reform. Recidivism rate for those offenders that are released is high. Extremely high. 82% of released prisoners end up committing another crime with in 10 years. Why is this? There are two reasons. 1: Society ostracizes felons making it hard for them to find jobs and homes. 2: Our "justice system" is pointed more towards punishment. Possible solutions?: Reform our Justice System to one of rehabilitation. Once done properly (and yes, I have ideas on it but for sake of brevity I'll skip it for now) prevent ex-felons criminal history from being used against them. One way to do that is to seal their public records and not allow anyone to access them with just a few exceptions. (exceptions?: schools, hospitals, banks)

I can of course list other things (mental health for example). But as you can see there are options to do that will be of overall benefit to society and reduce ALL crimes, not just "gun violence". And not once do you have to address guns or promote more gun control.

 

Im afraid that you’ve not even begun to make any sense. Have you ever read the constitution of the USA?
Did you read the second amendment? Can you explain what the words shall not be infringed mean? And not to a modern day liberal but to the signers of the document

 

Crime has been at a 30 year low, what has bumped up in the last couple years is gun homicides. Let's compare US and the UK ('14). Total crimes per 1000 in the UK 110 and in the US 41. Crime in the UK was almost 3 times higher. UK murder rate per 100k 1.2, the US 4.2. Gun homicides per 100k in the UK 0.2, in the US 3.3.
So the crime rate seems to have little to do with the gun homicide rate and the only variable factor seems to be the easy availability of firearms. The homicide rate 2021 in US was 6.9 per 100k and 76% were by firearm.
Sure, better education, justice reform and better mental healthcare will help. Also helping people out of poverty will help. But the UK has higher poverty rates, more crime, the mentally ill, angry disaffected minorities and more drug use, but what do they not have?

You dodge my question and I can see why, but I'll answer yours. Per some scholars the framers were distrustful of a federal standing army, so the compromise they worked out were state militias and to prevent the federal government from seizing state militia arms they added there right to bear those arms shall not be infringed. Militias were eventually found inadequate but 2A later became a useful tool of the gun lobby.

 

Unconstitutional nonsense

1) enforce the tenth amendment and interpret the commerce clause as intended-meaning NO MORE federal gun control laws. That would wipe out the idiotic 1934 NFA, the GCA of 68 and the other unconstitutional garbage foisted on us by often racist democrats and RINOS

2) Enforce McDonald upon the states. Laws that ban any type of firearm that civilian police and individual national guardsmen carry should be stricken. No politician or civilian law enforcement officer shall be avail themselves to firearms that the citizens of that state cannot buy.

3) cut off access to the courts for anyone trying to sue firearms makers, dealers etc for criminal acts perpetrated by third parties or negligent acts perpetrated by third parties

4) states have the proper police power to require universal background checks. States have the Proper power to limit access to armed people of certain government facilities. States have the proper power to prevent the open discharge of firearms in municipal areas or in other areas where doing so, short of an emergency, would be likely to cause harm. States have the proper police power to set reasonable age limits -for who may possess or buy firearms but in no case will that age be above voting age.

5) violent felonies that are facilitated by the use of a firearm should merit enhanced sentences that cannot be plea bargained away/

6) states have the proper power to deny firearms ownership to fugitives, violent felons, those under felony indictment, those adjudicated mentally incompetent or in the country illegally.

 

there are 100 million gun owners-tell me how many people are qualified to do carry out your idiotic and biased mental health examination. You prove that you don't want anyone to pass that test. so you really want to ban all gun ownership

people who harbor the fascist beliefs you do is a perfect reason for people to own really heavy duty firepower