How would you reform US gun laws?

I forget more in a week about arms trafficking and firearms laws than you will ever know. You have no clue how criminals operate. You have no idea where criminals get guns and it is not off "arms list"

 

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Ok then - educate us - preferably with appropriate links to back up claims

(Now I KNOW this will never be answered)

 

why would I need links-I was a municipal then federal prosecutor for three decades. You ain't even an American resident/citizen and have no concept of what you are talking about. Before I waste any time complying with your silly request-tell me how some one buys a gun off of "gun list". If you answer correctly, I might supply you the information that almost all of us US gun rights advocates know

 

maybe you could help your fellow traveler out and tell her about buying guns off of "gun list"

 

And because of this, the left insists on an ever-increasing number of unnecessary and ineffective restrictions on the right to keep and bear arms that will fail to prevent felons from getting guns.
As intended.

 

at first, the goal of the Democrats and lefties were to ward off criticism that lefties were soft on violent crime and actually sympathized with street thugs. The original goal was not screwing over gun owners, but merely pretending the democrats were doing something about rising street crime-be it the 1930s or the 1960s When the NRA finally pulled its head out of its ass after the 1968 GCA and state gun laws, the Democrats started pushing laws to attack the NRA for lobbying for pro gun conservatives.

the same two motivations continue-1) to cater to the low wattage sheeple who want SOMETHING DONE and 2) to harass voters who oppose the leftist swill that the democrats spew.

crime control has nothing to do with it

 

Apparently you are dodging the idea or don't understand it. Most all guns the general public possesses come from the manufacturer to an FFL (hopefully not corrupt) and then sold to someone legally qualified to own a firearm, from there, if not stolen, a gun can pass into illegal hands through private sales. #7 would prevent that. Since you refer to "guns list" you seem to be out of the loop about what is going on. Armslist is Craigslist for guns and all forms of social media can be a marketplace for guns. Anyone can shop for a gun and the seller may be willing to meet the buyer in the Walmart parking lot. There has been occasional gunfire between the two parties in my city, but I assume that is in the minority.
The far right gives their "thoughts and prayers" but are unwilling to do anything substantive to stop gun violence because it is the problem of another "demographic".

 

You know this is not true as you know a law cannot prevent someone from breaking another law.
Why do you make statements you know are not true?

 

Are you saying FFLs should not be required to run a NICS and have the buyer fill out a 4473 or they would break the law?

 

Apparently you are dodging my post, or you don't understand it.
I said:
You know this (#7 would prevent that) is not true as you know a law cannot prevent someone from breaking another law.
I then asked:
Why do you make statements you know are not true?
Well?

 

An FFL is a legal gun owner who is required to sell only to those legally eligible to possess a firearm. The same rules should apply to private legal gun owners.....if you want to do anything about the illegal gun trade....and you don't.

 

Apparently you are dodging my post, or you don't understand it.
I said:
You know this (#7 would prevent that) is not true as you know a law cannot prevent someone from breaking another law.
I then asked:
Why do you make statements you know are not true?
Well?

 

I could tell right away she has no clue what she is talking about and is completely ignorant of how criminals get guns and why her pie in the sky nonsense won't do anything but hassle honest people (which of course is what anti gun advocates are aiming for). She is completely unaware that the reason why FFLs can be monitored by the ATF is the FFLs are required to keep track of weapons they received and since the wholesalers and makers who ship to FFLs also keep records, such requirements can be mainly enforced against dealers who violate the law. Private citizens don't have to keep those records and the Obama DOJ admitted that unless EVERY FIREARM currently in private hands was REGISTERED, there is no way to ENFORCE private sale background check laws.

 

how are you going to enforce that. I own lots of guns. some I bought from private sales. The government has no record of that. I sell my buddy a gun without a background check. How does the government prove we didn't do the check-we will merely say the transaction took place before the Karen Law was passed.

 

Clearly, she is dodging my post, or doesn't understand it.

 

I will take BOTH for 2000, Alex!

 

The answer is there, ideology apparently prevents you from understanding it.

Reread #7, there would be an online record of the transaction that law enforcement could access if the gun was used in an illegal manner, that would incentivize legal gun owners to make sure they were not selling a gun to a person ineligible to own a gun. The guns you presently own would need to have 4473 form before you sold the gun to someone else, if there isn't one it could be considered an illegal firearm.

 

complete bovine excrement There are 400 million guns in the USA. there are at least a million people who have the skills to make a gun on CNC machinery. How are you going to get everyone to do that? you clearly haven't a clue about this subject

 

This is -another- statement you know to be false.
Why do you keep making statements you know to be false?

 

You said this would -prevent- people from selling to someone ineligible to own a gun.
NOW you say it would -incentivize- people from selling to someone ineligible to own a gun.
Why did you falsely claim it would -prevent- this?
Why do you make claims you know are false?