Huge Russian military exercise in September

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  1. LangleyMan

    LangleyMan Well-Known Member

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    Yes, and I hope the Russians are enjoying their damaged economy.
     
  2. LangleyMan

    LangleyMan Well-Known Member

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    Care to put some money on your claim? How about your $1000 versus my $20,000? We can choose an arbitrator with their $500 coming out of the winner's share. Heck, I'll even let the arbitrator donate my winnings to a Ukrainian charity.
    If you're so sure, you can walk away with $19,500. (Bet you don't take me up on it. I think you may be a Russian troll, but you're not that stupid.)
     
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  3. LangleyMan

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    Beam me up, Scotty--nothing here.
     
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  4. LangleyMan

    LangleyMan Well-Known Member

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    It's what happens when you run out of your own money.
     
  5. LangleyMan

    LangleyMan Well-Known Member

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    You're mixing up the left and right in America.

    Me? I'm from the U.S. and Canada. I also spend a lot of time travelling, especially in Europe. I guess I have a bit wider perspective than you do.
     
  6. LangleyMan

    LangleyMan Well-Known Member

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    It would be akin to the U.S. using its base in Okinawa to take over Okinawa. You're trolling.
     
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    squidward Well-Known Member

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    The left and the right are largely the same, barring the voter base
    Congratulations, you travel
     
  8. LangleyMan

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    There's money waitin' for ya, if you dare.

    I still think you're a Russian troll smart enough not to lose $1,000. Am I wrong?
     
  9. LangleyMan

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    That perspective thing.
     
  10. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You're funny! The sanctions are the best thing that happened to Russia. Look at it's power today, and when the sanctions were first imposed. As for Crimea, I guess the will of the people doesn't matter, only that of the Nazis and criminals in Kiev.
     
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    It's a sad thing for the Russian people. They're suffering because of Putin and kleptocrat pals.

    The Crimea? The Russians should have kept their hands off what belongs to the Ukraine. Ditto for Georgia territory.
     
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    Thingamabob Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There's no mole. It's just that Putin is a far better politician .... although Trump is a million miles better than any president the US has had in several decades. So count your blessings. Putin is doing the right thing. Trump is trying to do the right thing.
     
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    Thingamabob Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Ukraine? The US should have kept its hand off what belongs to the Ukrainians. Ditto for Georgia territory, Afghanistan, Irak, Libya, Syria, etc.
     
  14. Fred C Dobbs

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    So if the US invaded Italy now it would be the same as them invading Italy in 1943? That's an interesting perspective you have.
     
  15. Fred C Dobbs

    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There will be no accidental war either and it's China who's making its neighbors nervous. https://nationalinterest.org/blog/t...using-its-military-expand-its-territory-15260 They're also expanding into eastern Europe and Russia.
    Sorting out Jihadists in the Ukraine? In the Crimea?? If that's what they're doing why didn't they so? They could have lent a hand in Iraq if that was the case.
    Not obsessing about anything, but the USSR wasn't all that long ago and you probably know Putin's background. Actually you'll find Leftists obsessing more about Hitler, Nazis and Fascists than anyone does about the USSR. And of course they were worse than the Nazis or Fascists.
    I was there in Decemeber 89 when the wall came down and took a tour of east Berlin. I've never seen such inhumanity in my life and curse those ignorant bastards in the west who supported communism.
    In fact I acknowledge Islam is the greatest danger (not America btw) and have posted far more posts on that than on Russia or the USSR.
    It's the least worst but, as in your examples, not perfect. Perhaps we have to learn to expect that and call out those who create the anti democratic problems before we support other non democratic systems.
    few believe they are.
    The backlash from Al Qaeda and other Islamic groups was underestimated, but that doesn't mean that the people didn't prefer democracy any more than the people of east Germany wanted Communism.
    The most serious, criminally so, was Obama pulling the troops in December, 2011. But the other European nations left also and are now paying the consequences.
    Either you go to the Islamists or they'll go to you, as they're already doing.
    You seem to think this is a normal traditional war and it isn't Start thinking differently, especially about 'containment. You see the effect Muslims are having in the UK but forgetting the object of war. That's why you'll lose.
    You told me, in no uncertain terms, not to let the bedbugs bite - so I didn't.
     
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  16. LangleyMan

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    Slick Willie Clinton and Ronnie Reagan make Trump look like the amateur he is.
    Those two share one thing, anyway--they're both crooks.
     
  17. LangleyMan

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    The U.S. didn't invade the Ukraine or Georgia.
    The U.S. had every right to take out the Taliban. They were attacked from Afghanistan.
     
  18. Thingamabob

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    Do you know nothing at all about world events?
    The US orchestrated and militarily supported the military coup that illegally ousted the democratically elected leader of the Ukraine. What is happening in the Ukraine still today is the consequence of US meddling.
    Mikheil Saakashvili (who was president of Georgia) was bred, trained and spied for the US. He was a US puppet leader who also was deeply involved in the Ukraine. He is today in hiding as he is wanted by the Georgian government as a multi-crime fugitive for his work for the CIA.
    The US created and funded both the Taliban and Al Qaida ... not to mention ISIS. Maybe you haven't noticed but Afghanistan is nowhere near the US.

    You are uninformed and too boring.
     
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    Is that what constitutes an invasion? What do Irak, Libya, Syria, Afghanistan, Cuba, Pakistan, Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, Grenada, Somalia, Haiti, Panama, Dominican Republic, Philippines, and so many more have in common?
     
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    We are talking about Crimea. Stop deflecting.
     
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    If a handful of jihadists could get into the US and cause such disproportionate mayhem as in 9/11, some of it could happen closer to home than you'd like to believe. I sincerely hope it doesn't, but they mean business, and I repeat - don't be complacent by thinking your isolation will stop them. And as to the 'conventional war'? If global jihad should eventually wrest control of Pakistan's nuke stockpile, it won't be a conventional war, trust me.
     
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    Since you ask . . . I believe Putin has the wisdom to sort it out. Criticize as much as you like, but leave the job itself to those who know what they're doing when you most certainly don't?
     
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    Dire situations require 'aggression' (I would call it 'strong leadership') to resolve them. When was the last time we had strong leadership in the west?
     
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    So Russian 'aggression' is acceptable and praiseworthy while US aggression is a threat to world peace? Meanwhile China's aggression seems to be going unnoticed.
     
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    Mebbe they're trying to catch up with the decades of US expansion? ;) Other than that though, you make a few good points (some of them contentious, but not worth getting heated over), not the least of them suggesting that we're heading for disaster ourselves (the UK and Europe) because of the stupidity of liberals and the ineptness of the politicians who propitiate them.

    You obviously had a good night's kip then - plenty of zzzzzzzzzzs. :sleepy: :mrgreen:

    Also, I trust that when I've been saying 'you', you realise I was referring to the US, and not yourself personally.
     

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