Huge Russian military exercise in September

There was no genocide of Russians in the Ukraine.

Meaning what? It's no surprise how it was engineered. Does that make it okay? No.

That doesn't mean an invitation was made.

No, I don't expect the U.S. will be treated with respect.

 

I think most people felt they were justified.

 

I don't care for bullies. If Russians want to back a thug, I hope they enjoy the poverty they're reaping.

 

Okay, I'll bite. Who knocked down the towers?

 

You do realise your graph shows their economy is booming under Putin right?

It must suck that all the malice you feel for them is being so frustrated.
Vote Hilary. Have a nuclear war. That will help.

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...869fe70a721_story.html?utm_term=.57902980b1dc

 

To borrow from the movie title, It's Complicated. Many things in life are complicated you know.

Considering how many facts are either unknown or suppressed, we can only guess. If one must assign a "who" for the simple-minded, the number one seed is Israeli interests, and those interests exist in many parts of the US government, including Congress and the pentagon. For years, and on the day it happened, the Comptroller in the Pentagon was an ordained Rabbi and dual US-Israeli citizen named Dov Zakheim. The Israelis filming from New Jersey were probably more than cheerleaders dancing in joy.

 

So what? You call them insurgents. It is your right. You can even call them "Your Majesty" if you like. It is your right. I have a different opinion on this issue. My views do not always coincide with yours. I assure you, if you or the journalists of the American media decide to jump from the skyscraper upside down, I will not do the same as you.

 

I go with the 19 perps. We can discuss who put them up to it.

 

He did it in neighboring countries, according to you, so perhaps he should go international. Meanwhile, as per the link, he can't seem to control corruption in his own country.

I was being facetious, and moderately mocking, because I felt your idea of Putin travelling to other countries to fight the mafia, religious extremists and corruption was not credible.

 

The annual growth rate of the Russian GDP according to World Bank was 1.8 in 2013, 0.7 in 2014, -2.8 in 2015, -0.2 in 2016, and 1.5 in 2017. Those are weak numbers even by Obama standards.

 

Taken over all of the Putin years, the Russian growth rate averages at over 3%.

It's very comparable to your own growth rate in the same period. Probably a bit higher.

I could cherry pick out your recession years if you like, compare them to the boom going on Russia at the same time.
It won't make you look good.

 

Can't admit you are wrong? You made the claim that the West calls these fighters terrorists and I proved you wrong. End of story.

 

Destroyer,

the general problem is that it became the global fashion to declare enemy insurgents as terrorists, just to discredit them. I had you ... I believe in another thread ... times the examples called:

For you Russians, the insurgents of the so-called Dree Syrian Army are all terrorists, but not for others.
For the Turks, the Kurdish militias of the YPG are all terrorists, but not for you Russians and funny meadow not even for the US and the West.

In Afghanistan we have 3 ... let's say "enemy factions" ... who fight against the Afghan government and international ISAF Forces:

- The Taliban, as former rulers of Afghanistan
- Al Qaeda, who are known worldwide as terrorists and are known to have been protected by the Taliban and are still active from Pakistan
- The ISIS / the IS who are also for all worldwide terrorists, are active in Afghanistan since about 2 years and, interestingly, are also at war with the Taliban and Al Qaeda.

In official usage, only Al Qaeda and ISIS are referred to as terrorists for reports and the like.
The Taliban, on the other hand, are called insurgents ... even though it happens here and there that someone says terrorists.

The big difference that I've come to now, though, is that in Syria you, the Assad regime, and even Iran are fighting everything against Assad without invariably being labeled as terrorists and that's ... sorry ... bull * *** and not right!

 

Yes, of course you do. When everything the American people believe is false, we will know the success of our misinformation efforts. You are a splendid subject.

 

In the international legal aspect, the definition of the concept of terrorist activity was first given in the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of Acts of Terrorism, adopted by the Assembly of the League of Nations on November 16, 1937.

1. Intentional actions directed against life, bodily integrity, health and freedom
2. Deliberate acts consisting in the destruction or damage to public property or property intended for public use belonging to another participating State or under its jurisdiction.
3. Intentional action, capable of endangering human lives by creating a common danger.
4. An attempt to commit violations as provided for in the provisions of the Convention. Criminal, in particular, recognized the fact of manufacturing, obtaining, storing or supplying weapons, explosives or harmful substances in order to fulfill in any country a violation prosecuted in criminal procedure

Thus, the international convention of the League of Nations on the Prevention and Punishment of Acts of Terrorism of 1937 codifies the important sphere of the regulatory impact of international law on the struggle of the world community with the international crime of terrorism.

The development of the multidimensional theme of international terrorism by the practice of international law was intensified in the 1970s and 1980s, when a total of 19 international conventions were prepared.

Terrorism - actions taken for political, religious and ideological reasons or threat of actions that are related to violence against the person and danger to the life of the individual, a risk to the health or safety of the population, damage to property, interference in the operation of electronic systems or its violation, and which have an impact purpose on the government or intimidation of the population

Therefore, we should not talk about the relativity of terrorism. For a long time already there is an international definition.

At the same time, it can be safely asserted that NATO member countries are countries, sponsors of terrorism.

 

They may look good when compared to Obama but not when compared to Trump. Russia is dying.

 

No, Trumps first term growth rates do not beat Putins in his first term. Not even close.
About half.

Russia isn't dying.
It's economy is energy dominated.
When prices go up, they boom.
When they go down, they recess.

Russia had it's hard core economic reforms during the fall of the Union.
Yours are still to come.
What happened to them is due to happen to you.
Only investor confidence is holding this off. You are on borrowed time.

 

Russia is dying in many ways and all you need do is google the phrase. China is on their Eastern borders. Russia leased land to China but, of course, will never get it back. They have China on its borders, Muslims within, and seriously negative demographics. Just Google.

 

They say the same sort of stuff about you.
Check out Destroyer of Illusions.

You talk smack about Russia, Russians talk smack about Americans.
What's new?

 

It's more than just 'saying stuff'. If any of the facts I posted are inaccurate please point them out.

 

The facts you choose to focus on says a lot about you Fred.

It's your negativity you are displaying towards them.
When you say this about them, I don't think less of them, I think less of you.

When people talk smack about America, it's all true too.

But America is not defined by it's perceived short fallings. And neither is anyone else.
If all you look for is the bad in people, that is all you will ever find.

When you give focus to the darkness within you, it grows.
Choose the light.

 

You're getting unnecessarily personal which, under different circumstances, I wouldn't mind at all. But here we're talking about two different countries and our opinions of them, and these opinions should be supported by facts. I gave you some facts and you never refuted them, which makes me believe they're accurate. Without facts we're only trying to support our beliefs, and that makes debate more difficult than it need be.

 

It boils down to national antipathy.
That is all.

You are culturally conditioned to think ill of them and you do.
I have never heard you wax lyrical about the good of the Russians.

You can find infinite facts to support your prejudice, but your prejudice came first.
Rationalising your hatred does not make me approve of it.

I have refuted no end of your facts.
No end.
You simply find new ones to keep on reinforcing your negativity.
So let's cut the crap.
You hate Russia.

And that is where all your negative appraisals of them stem.
From you and not them.


You could truthfully and factually say Russia rescued Crimea.
But you won't.
Because the image of Russia you are trying to sell is one of evil.
This doesn't come from their actions, it comes from your perception of them.

You could truthfully and factually say the Russians rescued the Ossetians.
But you won't.
Because the image of Russia you are trying to sell is one of evil.
This doesn't come from their actions, it comes from your perception of them.

You could say they are richer than they have ever been. But you won't.
And so on.

You will persistently and exclusively look for ways in which to run them down.
Because you feel enmity towards them. Antipathy.

Every detail and rationalisation you offer to confirm this bias simply reinforces to me that you hold it.
It reflects more negatively on you than it does them.

 

In fact I'm indifferent to Russia. Since the Cold War ended the country holds no interest for me whatsoever.