I am all in favor of banning guns (for criminals first, including government crimina)

Start out the banning by eliminating crime and taking all their weapons - Liberals like Obama and Bush took our bravest to liberate Afpakistan, and now it is time to end excuses for people having guns, only problem is the pro gun people all over the nation are screaming and sounding legitimate about all the criminals, and statistics show that indeed America has one of the highest crime rates while busy liberating others. so let's collect all the weaponry from the criminals and the gangsters so that we can move on with it...

Or should we perhaps start out by confiscating weapons from law abiding citizens (easier), and then the criminals will follow the example and surrender their guns?

 

I dont think you'll win many converts using words like BAN on any subject in America.
I also can hit you 40 yards away with my arrow that you'll never hear coming in time.

I think natives in places without guns did just fine ..defending and killing others with simple rocks and spears..so a BAN on those might be needed also.
I'll keep my guns..and you can keep your rocks.

 

Americans have long ago decided that a high crime rate associated with guns was worth the price of keeping them. They can be regulated, sure, but an outright ban will never happen. The liberals will face an untold amount of rage if they ever try to amend the Constitution.

Guns are here to stay.

 

Have you figured out how to get rid of that pesky Bill of Rights first?

 

There are no law-abiding citizens in america. Everyone speeds and drives drunk on the highways - two super violent crimes that kill thousands of innocent people every year. Our policy of denying guns to just certain criminals like convicted felons makes no sense.

 

Have you known any convicted felons? You should spend some time in a federal penitentiary. You might change mind.

 

Ban Guns and how does that impact criminals with weapons.It doesn't.
Take Mayor Dickhead Bloomberg's New York city.Need I say more.
N.Y.city has about the most restrictive legal gun permits in the nation.
Just look at states with Conceal/Carry and their crime rates.
Not only is having a weapon a Guaranteed Constitutional right,
but it is regulated.Those who break the law couldn't care less about
the law or gun regulation.The very reason law abiding citizens need to
protect themself.Especially since Obama has ordered hundreds of Millions of
rounds of special bullets and special Up Armor trucks for use in his
attempt to declare martial law if the Sh!t hits that fan.

 

Martha Stewart is a felon. So is Pete Rose. You really think it's right to deny the right of self-defense to people who committed non-violent crimes while super-violent criminals like drunk drivers are allowed to have guns.? THINK

 

And yet i strongly suspect you commit violent crimes every day such as speeding and drunk driving and red light running. Why do you consider yourself a law-abiding citizen?

 

There is hope...

 

What do you mean? Conservatives love banning books, types of marriage, and pretty much anything else they disagree with.......

 

The American attatude about guns is the problem, not the laws. Bans never really help, but the gun nuts are ignoring the facs.

Data from the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention show that 3,184 children and teens died from gunfire in the United States in 2006—a 6 percent increase from 2005. This means one young life lost every two hours and 45 minutes, almost nine every day, 61 every week.

Of these deaths, 2,225 were homicides, 763 were suicides and 196 were due to an accident or undetermined circumstances. Boys accounted for 2,815 of the deaths; girls for 369 deaths. More than five times as many children and teens—17,451—suffered non-fatal gun injuries.

•The number of children and teens in America killed by guns in 2006 would fill more than 127 public school classrooms of 25 students each.
•More preschoolers (63) were killed by firearms than law enforcement officers ( 48 ) killed in the line of duty.
•Black males ages 15 to 19 are almost five times as likely as their White peers and more than twice as likely as their Hispanic peers to be killed by firearms.
•Between 1979 and 2006, the yearly number of firearm deaths of White children and teens decreased by about 40 percent, but deaths of Black children and teens increased by 55 percent.
•Since 1979, gun violence has ended the lives of 107,603 children and teens in America.
•Sixty percent of them were White; 37 percent were Black.
•The number of Black children and teens killed by gunfire since 1979 (39,957) is more than 10 times the number of Black citizens of all ages lynched throughout American history (3,437).

 

While I find the numbers of children killed to be horrible, if you study the demographics of gun ownership the group that decreased by 40% are the ones with highest rate of gun ownership. Gang violence is responsible for the vast majority of the deaths in question. I agree that gun bans are not the answer banning guns would be no more effective than banning drugs. Violent crime rates have been dropping for the last almost two decades much is left to be done of course. Better education, lower unemployment, and ending prohibition to remove products from the black-market, would be more effective than adding another product to their inventory.

 

The vast majority of gun violence is tied in with gang/organized crime activity. The only thing we should do, is focus more on reducing that specific type of crime.

 

You're exactly right. Because if government has the ability to deny guns to criminals who have paid their sentence, and it also has the ability to define what is a criminal, then by default it has the ability to move the bar to define who can have a gun and who can't. In the future, it may not just be felons who aren't allowed to have guns. But people who commit misdemeanors or infractions may someday be prohibited from owning guns as well. And what gets defined as a crime is up to the government, so perhaps anyone caught "suspected of terrorism" under NDAA without evidence will be prohibited from purchasing guns in the future.

The type of gun control we have right now is a slippery slope.

 

It's already here. Those convicted of misdemeanor domestic abuse lose their gun rights. Been that way for 15 years.

 

ban them for criminals all you want, because criminals are criminals because they dont give a (*)(*)(*)(*) about the law and will have a gun anyways if they want one. making very harsh punishments on those who carry illegally i could see, but wagging your finger at a gang member for carrying a gun aint gonna get you anywhere but buried in cemetary of your families choice.

 

Sorry, what books? Also, you mean new types of invented marriage. Seems to me that libs like banning speech they disagree with, one of the things actually enumerated in the Constitution.

 

Then you're in favor of a universal gun ban because all americans break the law every day by speeding and driving drunk on the highways.

 

They have a gun lobby, the NRA, that successfully promotes arms manufacture and, effectively, murder.

All in the name of a second amendment that:

But why would one expect them to behave any differently at home than they do abroad.

 

So you are anti constitution and anti second amendment and want to take away our freedoms. You will never take weapons from criminals. Look at Chicago they have strict gun laws yet the gang violence and gun use is out of control.

 

Gun bans means more crime. Just look at Washington DC


http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/jan/21/guns-decrease-murder-rates/

 

Laws are useless if they are not applied and enforced.

But enjoy your "freedom" to be shot.

 

To properly regulate gun usage, there are two venues that must be secured. Lawful gun use must be reaffirmed, and illicit gun trafficking must be reduced.

To reaffirm lawful gun use, the second amendment should be better followed. The Militia Act of 1903 should be amended to consider all citizens part of the reserve militia. Then, all citizens who own firearms should learn how to utilize their weapons for national defense purposes. Required training for all firearm owners should be imposed, and proper safeguards should be reiterated, now in the context of securing weapons for national security.

Illicit gun use has to be handled by cracking down on illicit gun trafficking. This is where our militia should come into play. States should coordinate with the federal government to properly secure borders via the National Guard. Furthermore, just as restrictive alcohol or drug laws drive product activity underground, the same principle applies to guns. Loosening national and state gun acquisition laws in accordance with the creation of a truly "well-regulated militia" could help solve many problems.

In addition, the National Rifle Association has an educational curriculum on firearms and responsible firearm usage. As part of gym classes, responsible gun usage should be taught. Ironically, the places where most gun deaths occur is where education on such responsible usage is weak. If young boys and girls can learn early on the practical uses of guns for self-defense and other methods, they would be less inclined to acquire one illegally or use one improperly. They could also learn what happens when one does use a gun improperly or acquires one illegally. The class unit would be similar to driver's education classes, an attitude adjustment.