I believe Abraham said "good son and good Prophet" to The Prophet Muhammad (pbuh)

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  1. Omnipotent

    Omnipotent New Member

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    Anecdotal as in: (of an account) not necessarily true or reliable, because based on personal accounts rather than facts or research.

    As far as wisdom, already defined the type of wisdom I refer to. And that is knowledge gained through experience.

    I didn't 'hint' at imagination. I out right implied it... that your god in the head my be just an imaginary friend. And I'm sure Al wasn't talking about that kind of imagination.
     
  2. Incorporeal

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    Where did that definition come from?

    Experience is also noted as being a fundamental part of the scientific method... and includes 'personal experience'.

    Then again, it may not be just an imaginary friend. You say that you are "sure Al wasn't talking about that kind of imagination." What makes you so sure and what other types of imagination are there?
     
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    It is no interpretation. It is what you said .. you claimed God interprets scripture for you = you claiming to know Gods interpretation = you claiming to speak for God.

    Don't blame your lack of understanding of what follows from your own words on me.
     
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    Then do yourself a favor and quote what I said. Also show the posting where you allege that it was said.
     
  5. Omnipotent

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    https://www.google.com/search?q=ane...a:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&channel=rcs

    Umm.. ok. Not sure what your point here is.

    You're being tedious with the semantics here. Given Al E's credentials and the context of his quote, think it's safe to say he refers to imagining possibilities... and not imagining a make believe friend.
     
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    But that's all it is, legend. There are no historical accounts that suggest that Abraham said that to Muhammad.
     
  7. Incorporeal

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    Well, that is interesting. Which specific site did you visit to obtain that definition?

    The point is you cannot arbitrarily dismiss personal experience.

    My goodness. Tediousness is a bother to you? You thinking something may be factual, does not mandate that it is factual. Nor does ones thinking automatically make it "safe to say". Do you have PROOF of what you are asserting?
     
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    One thing is for sure - every generation has its share of liars and predators who can and will tell lies very convincingly and charismatically in order to benefit at the expense of the gullible.

    "Prophets" are often of this sort, to be sure. Those who aren't are likely just plain nuts. Certainly either possibility is far more likely than their claims actually being true (and there's a lot more evidence for this as well).
     
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    What is the purpose of this Jesus/Jeshua or whatever the local name may be.
    Why is the circumstances surrounding this figure so mystical?
     
  10. Giftedone

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    My apologies for using the word God instead of Holy Spirit.

    You claim the HS interprets scripture for you. Is this not then the interpretation of God ?
     
  11. DennisTate

    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Christian Adreason reports that during his NDE he got the distinct impression that the person who Christians call the Holy Ghost or Holy Spirit is none other than God the Mother!!!???

    I think that this is reasonable and sure would explain a lot of things……………. for example……. if The Holy Ghost that overshadowed Mary/ Myriam was G-d the Mother, The Ancient of Days the Divine Femine…. then…… some suspicions that we guys would tend to have……. are certainly alleviated!
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    My theory at this time is that he and his identical twin brother Judas Didymus Thomas were acting out both the spring Passover Holy Days as well as the autumn harvest festivals of Rosh ha Shananah, Yom Kippur and Sukkot.

    If you read about one of the two Yom Kippur goats being put out of the assembly….. and then read about the separation of the two twins in this book……… Yom Kippur will begin to look quite different……


    The Thomas Book Near Death, a Quest and a New Gospel by the Twin Brother of Jesus (Google eBook)


    Ph. D. Bruce Fraser MacDonald
    http://books.google.ca/books?id=kbiGjKJl4D4C&printsec=frontcover&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0
     
  13. DennisTate

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    That is how I reacted at first myself but as I researched near death experience accounts ….. over and over and over and over again I read how people are astonished……… how much they are loved by their Creator…… in spite of all their flaws and sins…. when they meet the Word/ Logos/ The G-d of Abraham/ YH/WH/ ... during one of those brushes with death!

    Notice the following paragraph from the NDE account of a woman who committed suicide:

    http://angelicview.wordpress.com/2014/06/05/i-had-to-live/
    … This so reminds me of “The Man on the Throne” writing by near death experiencer Christian Andreason:

    http://www.allaboutchristian.com/spirituality/index.html

    It is so hard for us to imagine that our Creator thinks of us in this way!
     
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    This makes total sense. Father, Mother, Son, trinity existed in countless religions. That was the original Trinity. The stripping out of the feminine nature of God by Christianity was a mistake IMO.
     
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    You can't figure it out even though you present yourself as being almost all knowing in regard to scripture?
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I have figured it out. You just keep on trying to live in denial of the truth.

    Once again: You claim the HS interprets scripture for you. Is this not then the interpretation of God.

    Look at how you hide from the truth. You can not even address a simple question on the basis of your own claims.
     
  17. Incorporeal

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    Define "truth" in a manner that is unambiguous, irrefutable, and accepted by all people across the planet.
     
  18. Giftedone

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    The truth is that you realize that no matter how you answer the question you will be shown to be disingenuous.

    You made a claim and you do not want to admit what your claim means because you will be proven to be in contradiction with your previous claims.

    Why don't you just retract your claim.

    You claim the HS interprets scripture for you. Is this interpretation from God.
     
  19. DennisTate

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    Actually…. based on my forty years of praying and asking for clarification on various questions related to what we Christians are supposed to do……. Incorporeal is correct…. The Ruach ha Kodesh/ The Holy Spirit…. does indeed guide us to higher and higher levels of understanding……but I have gone through times of somewhat hiding from truth that I was not ready for………… I prayed with chutzpah back in 1990 to be given understanding and wisdom so that I could make things more interesting for the Anti-Christ guy…. who is predicted to be wiser than Daniel…… and sure enough…. step by step … little by little…….. since 1990…. I was shown something that amounts to nothing less than…..a "Unified Theory of Modern World Prolblems!"

    I am 99.9999999% certain that I never would have thought this up if I had not asked and prayed for wisdom with considerable extra chutzpah than the usual!


    http://www.christianforums.com/t7735229/
    You will get a laugh out of what 42% of the people answered when they responded to the poll that I posted with this!

    ….. but I have to admit….. I am not certain that all of this is from G-d…… like any human I am almost certainly ignorant and incorrect on any part of this formula…. that I am pretty sure….. does have potential! I could not say that specific parts of this are one hundred percent free of "flies in the ointment" or deception from the dark side of the force!
     
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    Incorp has not responded to the question so I am not sure what you mean when you say he is correct.

    Incorp claims that the Holy Spirit interprets scripture for him. The question is whether or not this interpretation comes from God ?

    What are your thoughts ?
     
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    The "truth" as seen by Giftedone. But who says that what Giftedone says is really the 'truth'?

    You have also made several claims and do not want to admit what you claims mean because you will be proven to be in contradiction with other claims you have made.

    Why don't you just retract all of your claims?

    You pretend that you know something about the Holy Spirit, yet you have no proof of your pretended fantasies.
     
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    Look at your desperation to avoid answering the question. Accusing me of saying things I didn't say ... anything to avoid addressing your own claim.

    What are you scared of ?

    You claim the HS interprets scripture for you. Is this interpretation from God.
     
  23. Incorporeal

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    Look at the desperation you display in avoiding the question of who says that your words are 'truth'. Nuff said on this posting.

     
  24. Giftedone

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    The truth is that you will not answer the question directly. Do you deny this truth ?

    You claim the HS interprets scripture for you. Is this interpretation from God.
     
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    No need for me to either admit or deny. You are the one who has accused me of making such a statement...Obviously you have no spiritual discernment, otherwise you would KNOW.
     

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