I Guess I do Want Your Guns

Beto is just saying what lefties are thinking.

 

So let's crackdown on violent video games and movies that glorify the misuse of guns.

 

Just like when they took everyone's alcohol, right?

 

How is 'ending gun violence' going on the South Side of Chicago? Almost all gun crime there is done by guns I don't think Beto wants to ban. How come 'lax' Indiana gun laws that the Chicago Mayor blames don't cause such crime in Indiana? What about non-gun violence? Does a victim care what killed him?

 

So why do Americans own twice as many guns as we did in the '90s, yet the murder rate is half what it was then?

 

Hard to 'bear' a nuke, as the 2A says.

 

The term gun 'buyback' is idiotic, they were never the government's to begin with. Mine aren't for sale, sorry.

 

They disagree with the rights enumerated in the Constitution. They don't believe in it at all and want to rewrite it.

What's hilarious to me is, they think they know more than the founding fathers.

 

Millions of Americans agree with that statement you're responding to.

 

Yup, just like we don't need an Electoral College, to them. Note the complete lack of addressing the 2A in this discussion from the LW, like it doesn't exist.

 

Perhaps, but they know better than to make a public threats. Are you going to do the same knowing the authorities might very well be monitoring? Want to make threat against the FBI?? If they did ever come for your gun, they will bring a SWAT team knowing what you've said, and I'll be watching you on the local news being carted out of your house by a coroner. But you go ahead and be an internet warrior.

 

Polls are not indicative of anything.

 

Its true...

 

Buybacks don't work. For the most part the people that do "sell" their guns "back" usually just sell their really old guns or guns that don't work no more. Not to mention the people that are likely to sell to a gun buyback program are not the criminals that intend to use a gun for nefarious reasons.

USA Today ~ Gun Buybacks Popular But Ineffective

 

You'd have to also figure for the increase in population, including Mexicans and any other illegals. I don' think they know how many people live here.

Therefore, none of their statistics can be close to correct. This is the ridiculousness of their 'proof'. It's all a joke and anyone following them is simply so frightened they will grab at straws to try to change things. These programs won't help. They don't address the issues at hand. In fact, the issues are so difficult to address, even our socalled most intelligent cannot figure out what to do.

 

Worked in Aus and is working in NZ

You just have to pay enough

Admittedly we did not get ALL the guns and some are still in circulation in the criminal underground (for about $30,000 each). Biggest impact? They ended up being “locked away” so harder to get your hands on for impulse killing.

It has been estimated that mandating safe storage of firearms did more to reduce our firearm mortality than the buyback

 

I haven't made any threats, I'm just stating the fact that millions of Americans would not willingly give up their guns, and we don't have millions of SWAT teams. Even in liberal CT when they had an AWB very few people complied.

 

What the........?

Stats are “per 100,0000”. Population numbers do not affect that

 

I predict Beto will be the greatest gun salesman since Obama and Bill Clinton.

 

And no one is going to do that

There are other ways than confrontation

 

That's why they are inaccurate. All of yours have been.

 

Mostly they surround berating other countries because you would go to jail for berating your own.

 

Playing to paranoia

You DO know it will be mostly Trump supporters suckered into buying more guns that they do not need.

 

Agreed. I'd add that disarmed Australia is another salesman.

 

And if you took out five large crime ridden US cities we'd be towards the bottom of that list. I notice Japan towards the bottom, Japanese-Americans have very low crime rates also. We have a huge number of minorities in the US, and in NYC for example, they are responsible for 90% of the murders/victims.

A great summary of the gun debate by Michael Owen:


"No amount of statistics or facts will sway either side in the gun control debate, because they are all looking for simple solutions to complex problems. The facts of those complex problems are uncomfortable and nobody really wants to come to grips with them.

"For example, we don’t really have a single America with a moderately high rate of gun deaths. Instead, we have two Americas, one of which has very high rates of gun ownership but very low murder rates, very comparable to the rest of the First World democracies such as those in western & northern Europe, Australia, New Zealand, Canada, Japan, South Korea. The other America has much lower rates of gun ownership but much, much higher murder rates, akin to violent third world countries.

"The tough questions are those like, why do we have these two Americas? But that’s an uncomfortable discussion to have. So instead those on the left favor simple minded restrictions that target first world America, with its high gun ownership but very low murder rate, but don’t address the root causes of third world America’s violence at all. Meanwhile those on the right correctly feel their civil rights are constantly threatened, so they are constantly in a state of “better stock up before they finally ban it” and the guns and ammo fly off the shelves. The left’s constant gun control rhetoric is the greatest thing ever for arms manufacturers.

"Meanwhile, over the past 40 years, while the number of guns in private hands has doubled, the murder rate has dropped by half. The left are constantly prattling about “assault weapons” which are almost never used to commit murders (about 1% of gun murders; all rifles combined are around 3%). More murders are committed with baseball bats than “assault rifles”; the vast majority of gun homicides are committed with handguns, but it’s easier to sell restrictions that target “assault weapons”, even though such restrictions, even if 100% effective, would make no detectable change in the murder rate (especially because of substitution effects). They favor ridiculous measures such as bans on “high capacity magazines”, as if magazines weren’t cheap and easily swapped out in a fraction of a second."