I simply do not understand

I might could, but I doubt they still exist on the internet. Youtube is touchy about such things. In any case there has been enough in the news over the last few months to ferret out the truth if one listens carefully.

 

Well for starters the Spanish flu did not come from Spain but regardless that was a different time and it is difficult to make comparisons. The question you really need to ask is why do you call it the China Flu? You mentioned it came from China but unless you frequently preface things with where they come from that reason may be disingenuous. Do you frequently use adjectives like Trump's China neck ties, Ivanka China dresses, Apple China iPhones, Mexican Ford cars, Indian Charlie, Russian Nick, China Frank to describe things and people.

I am not a radical left democrat like you mentioned in your post but I would not use the term China Virus. You need to wonder why we call something a different name when a legitimate name exist. It comes down to why give something or someone a nickname or pseudonym. These are the reasons I came up with off the top of my head, there are probably more:
1. We often give nicknames when the real name is too long or hard to pronounce. "Severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2" would be a very long name and people shorten it to coronavirus or covid 19. It would be like calling someone Jonathan, John or Rajinder, Raj. No disrespect is intended.
2. Nicknames are terms of endearment. You may call a spouse, honey a friend bro. Again no disrespect is intended, quite the opposite.
3. Brand names as a nickname. Sometimes a brand become so dominant that we refer to all similar product by that name. ie Ketchup, Jacuzzi, Kleenex.
4. Nicknames meant as name calling or to troll. This would be nicknames like Lying Ted, Crooked Hillary, Orange Man, Kung Flu Virus. The purpose of these nickname is to ridicule, mock or simply to troll to get a rise out of someone.

So I go back to my original question. Why do people use an alternate name when a legitimate or respectful name exist? If the answer is 4 then you have to ask yourself why you do it. We are constantly teaching our children not to call people names or troll so why would mature individuals do it.

 

End of thread ^^^^^.

 

You can’t because it never existed

 

Well done, sir...well done indeed

 

Well done. Should shut everyone up.

 

Lol, good luck with that !!!

 

Yeah, I'd venture to guess that's what he means. A rather dumb thing to be mad about, imo.

 

There is good evidence that points towards this being a lab manufactured virus. A plannedemic, if you will...

Facts are not things that get "confirmed". Facts are not universal truths nor are they proofs. They are simply assumed predicate.

 

That's funny.

I don't remember Zika or West Nile being called derogatory during the last administration.

I mean you're welcome to point to any concerns anyone had at the time regarding that, but you can't, because there were none.

Seems your "nicknames" theory doesn't hold up when looking at diseases.

I guess saying someone has Parkinsons is slander.

 

For those who lack critical thinking skills maybe.

 

Good call!

I personally do not accept Wikipedia as a source of anything. Their articles are too often misleading, incomplete, or just plain wrong.

Even the grade school and high school that I attended would not allow their students to use Wikipedia as a source.

 

Links to the factual evidence?

 

I think you missed the point of my post. I never said it was wrong to name things after places or even use nicknames with locations in them. The point of my post which I kind of mentioned twice was "Why do people use an alternate name when a legitimate or respectful name exist?". I gave 4 potential answers but I said it was not exhaustive and I welcome other contributions.

To address your example of Zika or Nile Virus I think those were the accepted names or nicknames. If there is a longer scientific name, (which I am not familiar with), then this nickname falls under category 1, (a shortened name with no disrespect intended).

Again to address your concern that I am against names that are location related with locations I have no issues with names like Denim Jeans, Duffle Bags, Fez hats, Brussel sprouts etc... Because again these are names that are acceptable for the item and mean no disrespect.

For "Severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2" we have the full name which is long and difficult to say and type. We have names like coronavirus and covid-19 which are shorter and easier to say or type and accepted by scientist and the medical community.

I hope you see that my post came down to the INTENTION of the name or nickname.

So when we see people use names on this forum like "China Virus", "Kung Fu Virus", "Hong Kong Fluey"; I simply asking the question, what is the INTENTION of the names you chose. I am not even assigning blame. I am simply asking the user. I said in my original post:

 

Which I addressed indirectly.

Your premise that an "alternate" name isn't "legitimate" or "respectful" is a false one.

In most cases, it's not even an "alternate" name to begin with. There is nothing "disrespectful" about naming a virus or a disease after a person or an area from which it originated.

That entire premise is just some brand new bull****. The media is full of reporting referring to the "Wuhan" virus or the "China" virus and only recently decided it was "racist" as an attack against Trump.

You'd have to be a fool to believe it's anything else, when our entire history is full of "Zika" and "West Nile" and "MERS" and "Ebola" and "Lou Gehrig's Disease" and a million other diseases and illnesses that have never been considered "disrespectful".

Your entire premise is false.

 

You once again aren't understanding what he's posting. It would be helpful if you read the ACTUAL words he posted rather than what you THINK he posted.

He never stated an "alternate" name isn't "legitimate" or "respectful". In fact, below is from the post YOU replied to...see emboldened
"I never said it was wrong to name things after places or even use nicknames with locations in them. The point of my post which I kind of mentioned twice was "Why do people use an alternate name when a legitimate or respectful name exist?".

 

OK, you win. Call it whatever you like.

 

You should read harder.

There is nothing illegitimate or disrespectful about calling it the "wuhan virus" or the "china virus".

The "China virus" problem I have is that it's way too vague, since we've had so many of them come out of China.

 

So you didn't read the emboldened part. I did my best to help you out. I should have known better given your history. Carry on talking to yourself as I don't have time for your rabbit hole games.

 

Wise move. He will bring you down an endless rabbit hole if allowed.

 

Let me help you out with the English language.

If I suggest that you shouldn't use an ALTERNATE name for something when there are LEGITIMATE or RESPECTFUL terms then:

Using the ALTERNATE name is ILLEGITIMATE and DISRESPECTFUL.

The premise that calling Covid19 the "Wuhan" virus as an ALTERNATE name is NEITHER ILLEGITIMATE NOR DISRESPECTFUL.

You should do better to help yourself, given your history.

 

By your logic, every hurricane that hits the Southeastern states should be called "Africa Hurricane." We don't do that, even though almost all of them originate in Africa.

COVID-19 is specific. Wuhan virus is not.

 

Case in point above. Just like clockwork

 

Really.

Name a hurricane that developed inside Africa. I can name you plenty of diseases named after places in Africa, though.

Wuhan virus is as specific as Zika virus.

Oh and by the way, hurricanes, historically, were often named after where they landed.

Swing and a miss.

 

Talking to yourself. Good one.

Just because you don't understand words, even when I explain them to you, doesn't make it a rabbit hole.

I mean maybe for you, but still.